At least one founder and former CEO agrees that the idea of boosting shareholders’ returns isn’t likely to be a key motivator to workers these days. Ron Shaich, Panera Bread’s founder and former longtime CEO, has stressed how important it is for management and members of the C-suite to empathize with their employees and better understand what can get their buy-in to the company’s mission.

“No employee ever wakes up and says, ‘I’m so excited. I made another penny a share today for Panera’s shareholders,’” Shaich told Business Insider in an interview. “Nobody cares. You don’t care whether your CEO comes or goes.”

What a click bait bullshit title. The person never said what they are implying they said.