Comment on Dumb glasses

• lumen@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No? I just don’t think filming in a public place is wrong. Why would it be? No one has been able to provide a reason.

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  • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People have said: facebook analytics, ICE tracking, and a general discomfort with being ‘seen’ always. You won’t accept any of these because you are a corporate tool.

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    • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The first two seem like reasonable concerns, but like, people have eyeballs. When you go out in public… people are seeing you. If someone has a photographic memory and the savant ability to perfectly replicate what they’ve seen by drawing it, would you take issue with them? Obviously an edge case, but those people technically also exist. Their cooperation with authorities to me to share what they’ve recorded is the issue you would take.

      Don’t get me wrong, I believe privacy in one’s own home ought to be a legal right, but I don’t understand extending it into a place where that’s functionally impossible on a number of levels. I’ve been recorded plenty where I live by people pulling out their phones. While I do feel some level of tension from that due to the current state of our government, I don’t think that public recording on a fundamental level shouldn’t be a allowed. Hell, even in secret, sometimes people have security camera systems around their living space and the camera’s “reach” into public spaces. Also I’ve secretly recorded conversations I’ve had as well for legal and employment security reasons.

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      • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        As a matter of strategy, I do not care about edge cases. Irrelevant.

        Secondly, phones differ from glasses because they’re often kept in one’s pockets. Allegedly, they can’t see through clothes. And while you can pull one out any time, it can be socially impolite to.

        Thirdly, the presence of phone cameras (and microphones) everywhere is not something I’m taking for granted anyway. Is it really a good thing that we have that?

        Fourthly, we already have rules about public conduct. You can’t just brandish a gun at people, for instance, no matter how ‘harmless’ this act might be.

        Fifthly, if ruthlessly banning all cameras period was the only way forward, and it was better than the alternative, then I would accept that. You wouldn’t (I imagine) because you’re thinking about personal freedom over community health.

        Sixthly, if we’re talking not about you and me, but me and Amazon, then my country is my home, and Amazon needs to get the fuck out of it. Surveillance by authorities is obviously what I care about the most.

        Anyway, I tend to speak pretty tersely when I’m soapboxing, so don’t take it personally. I hope you have a good day, mate.

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  • tjsauce@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The reason it’s wrong is because the device filming is sending data to police and corporations, who frequently abuse the law. People do not have a problem with you using any other camera, such as a phone or camcorder. The problem is the specific device, not filming in general.

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  • Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why do you assume it is only happening in public? Since it is hidden cameras, in glasses, they can be recording anywhere (and even if the user hasn’t asked them to record explicitly, they are probably sending data back to their servers anyway - we know they have been doing that with microphones for literal decades already).

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I protest against this for the same reason I would protest against the government flying tens of thousands of drones around the city to track every person’s whereabouts and location history. Facebook gives the police unfettered access to their information. It’s like a Ring doorbell, but dumber looking and it moves around.

    If you’re sitting next to me with these fuckass glasses on, then you are giving the government live video feed of me. The only difference between this and a drone that’s personally following me is that technically, this doesn’t violate the Fourth Amendment because the government isn’t the one sending a mindless drone after me with a camera, Facebook is.

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