Another way this discussion is bullshit and leads nowhere is that religion can also explain everything science does. Oh the kid got a prosthetic arm? Yes, because put engineers in his path, it was all part of His plan. Kid losing the arm was also part of the plan BTW.
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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
can we stop with this early 2010s debate?
it’s bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons and record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.
the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism…
Science and technology advancement by itself is dangerous if society doesn’t advance as well. regardless of the specific religion or lack thereof.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
religion in itself isn’t a bad thing, fervant fanaticism is the dangerous part.
The atheist movement left a vacuum taken over by manosphere, and other toxic BS. How many cases are of scientific fanatics doing crimes against humanity for curiosity? unit 731? Mengele?
Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.
Let’s also not ignore the fact that many modern prosthetics just kind of suck in general. They’re getting better but they still aren’t great.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
not sure how that field is going, but I’m still upset that a company managed to make working prosthetic eyes, gave blind people some sigh, went out of business, and suddenly all their clients went blind again. They wouldn’t make the code upen source because it was their intellectual property.
they didn’t get into the “bring sigh to the blind” business to help people, just for the business part.
Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Yeah that’s really shitty, just another shitty aspect of capitalism protecting businesses and not people. Actually actively screwing people over for money.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism…
Guess we will rather see religion fade into oblivion, before we would see capitalism - with its inherent class issues - even show a surface crack… Sadly so I’m inclined to add.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
religion is only allowed to exist if it benefits capitalism. at least the organized toxic ones
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
There are unorganized non-toxic cults? 😁
tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
science vs religion debate has been around at least since the 1980s.
/s
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
1982 to be exact, when Thomas Dolby was blinded with science much like Saul was once blinded by Jesus on the road to Damascus. It’s poetry in motion.
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
May the Reverend Magnus Pike be forever remembered.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
that debate probably existed much earlier. wouldn’t surprise me if some shaman’s were upset at those high tech craftmen with copper tools and those craftmen though the chaman was crazy…