Comment on thx for the diabeetus

FundMECFS@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• hide@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mexica are native

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  • amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    indigeneity and nationality are two different concepts that have nothing to do with each other.

    this can range from indigenous Oaxacans who are US citizens to Mexican citizens who are settlers who murder indigenous people in Mexico to steal their land.

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  • FundMECFS@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mexico is a settler colonial state created by Spanish genociders.

    The Mexican ruling class is still largely of european descent. It’s well established that lighter skin correlates with status in Mexico.

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• captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What did the natives call the region in their language?

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  • pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well before Mexico, it was the Aztecs

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    • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      there was never a Aztec people that was the name someone made up. The [Mexica] (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztecs) people are the ones you are talking about.

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      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Someone has made up every name for every thing

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    • Katrisia@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Aztlán was the place they said they came from (probably in today’s U.S. territory). The “Aztecs” called themselves “Mexica”. That’s also their name in Spanish, and I have a faded memory that it is not the name in English only because an anthropologist had trouble pronouncing it or something. Whatever.

      Mexicas (meh - SHE - kahs) founded Tenochtitlan. After its fall, you are right, Mexico was named ‘Mexico’ from Nahuatl but people pronounced and pronounce it ‘MEH - hee - koh’ because of the Spanish language influence (think, as in Quixote, ‘kee - HO - teh’).

      There were Mexican intellectuals pushing for a ‘meh - SHEE - koh’ pronunciation in the 20th century, but they failed miserably.

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    • MadBigote@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Theres no such thing as Aztecs. Its Mexicas at best, but there existed several heterogenous cultures in the region, like the Olmecs.

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  • wieson@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t know where exactly maize was cultivated, but Mexico comes from city Mexico-Tenochtitlan.

    They found millenia old traces of maize in the valley of the Rio Balsa in Xihuatoxtla and also in the valley of Tehuacán.

    Something about Coxcatlán phase. Couldn’t find a name of a people who would have been responsible for the domestication.

    It’s easiest to say it happened in Mesoamerica.

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• Katrisia@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But those native people are still alive and the majority identify as Mexicans (additional to their community’s identity). They’re often bicultural, bilingual, etc.

  Are you really going to walk to Xochimilco, where there are still chinampas, and tell the people they should not take credit for them as a society, for example? As crazy as to walk to an ethnic German in Köln and telling him/her that the Köln cathedral and the… Cologne, sorry, whatever, and the food and the stuff is not really their heritage because “you weren’t Germany until…”. WTH? Then all Germans did during the Weimar Republic wasn’t them. All they did as Empires wasn’t them. I hope it’s not an awful analogy.

  Like, you’re technically correct, but pragmatically it doesn’t make much sense to me in this case.

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