Although most of it was probably his schizophrenia talking. I figure somebody who made an entire OS because he though God told him to, canât be held 100% responsible for his actionsâŚ
He was severely mentally ill and homeless by the end of his life, iirc doing youtube interviews for a big mac. He was a brilliant person who was failed by society and while i definitely donât condone his actions or rhetoric, its my understanding that he wasnât a bigot before his mental health declined. Im sure he had his biases that led to his bigotry later on, but that could be said about almost anyone.
If youâve known any schizophrenics⌠well, a part of their whole thing is persistent delusions.
Things you cannot get them to change their mind about, to try and comprehend in a different way, realize are false or are incoherent.
Bigotry is subset of that, and, while certainly not all, some of schizophrenics Iâve known have had one form or another of bigotry as one of those things they basically canât abandon, a mode or element of their thinking that never goes away.
The whole conceptual âproblemâ is⌠with a schizophrenic⌠how do you know what parts of them are âthe schizophrenia talkingâ, and which arenât?
You canât really.
Its a whole different way a mind can work, its a kind of neurodivergence.
Like, Iâm autistic, a different kind of nuerodivergent, and I attempted to autistically understand the thought processes of the schizophrenics I knew, trying to map out categories and flow charts and triggers and conditions.
⌠this didnât work.
They often donât understand their own thought processes, or will tell you two obviously logically mutually exclusive things are both true at the same time, and this will not bother them and they will just emphatically tell you its not inconsistent, with further logic that is also fairly obviously inconsistent.
But what kinds of thinking is âdisorderedâ, and what kinds of thinking ⌠are logically consistent?
I could find no overall pattern to that with the schizophrenics I knew, nor even really any rhyme or reason that could stably describe a singe one of them.
But, sometimes, the flipside of that, will be them explaining a way of thinking about something⌠that actually is valid, and is basically fucking wild, revolutionary, but it actually does logically check out when you work through it.
And then sometimes its a mix of both.
The best way that I have of understanding schizophrenia is basically that the pattern recognition and thus decision making framework within such a mind is radically different than âthe normâ (again Iâm autistic so thatâs also reliant on my understanding of âthe normâ), and I canât really describe it in any more detail than that.
Blackmist@feddit.uk â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
He certainly liked the N word.
Although most of it was probably his schizophrenia talking. I figure somebody who made an entire OS because he though God told him to, canât be held 100% responsible for his actionsâŚ
erev@lemmy.world â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
He was severely mentally ill and homeless by the end of his life, iirc doing youtube interviews for a big mac. He was a brilliant person who was failed by society and while i definitely donât condone his actions or rhetoric, its my understanding that he wasnât a bigot before his mental health declined. Im sure he had his biases that led to his bigotry later on, but that could be said about almost anyone.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨3⊠â¨weeks⊠ago
Yeah.
If youâve known any schizophrenics⌠well, a part of their whole thing is persistent delusions.
Things you cannot get them to change their mind about, to try and comprehend in a different way, realize are false or are incoherent.
Bigotry is subset of that, and, while certainly not all, some of schizophrenics Iâve known have had one form or another of bigotry as one of those things they basically canât abandon, a mode or element of their thinking that never goes away.
The whole conceptual âproblemâ is⌠with a schizophrenic⌠how do you know what parts of them are âthe schizophrenia talkingâ, and which arenât?
You canât really.
Its a whole different way a mind can work, its a kind of neurodivergence.
Like, Iâm autistic, a different kind of nuerodivergent, and I attempted to autistically understand the thought processes of the schizophrenics I knew, trying to map out categories and flow charts and triggers and conditions.
⌠this didnât work.
They often donât understand their own thought processes, or will tell you two obviously logically mutually exclusive things are both true at the same time, and this will not bother them and they will just emphatically tell you its not inconsistent, with further logic that is also fairly obviously inconsistent.
But what kinds of thinking is âdisorderedâ, and what kinds of thinking ⌠are logically consistent?
I could find no overall pattern to that with the schizophrenics I knew, nor even really any rhyme or reason that could stably describe a singe one of them.
But, sometimes, the flipside of that, will be them explaining a way of thinking about something⌠that actually is valid, and is basically fucking wild, revolutionary, but it actually does logically check out when you work through it.
And then sometimes its a mix of both.
The best way that I have of understanding schizophrenia is basically that the pattern recognition and thus decision making framework within such a mind is radically different than âthe normâ (again Iâm autistic so thatâs also reliant on my understanding of âthe normâ), and I canât really describe it in any more detail than that.