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ExtremeDullard@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• otter@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  At the same time, they became a lot more palatable to the rest of the world and companies that want to avoid bad press / boycotts

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  • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The rest of the world is part of the global supply chain too. When it comes time to choose AI suppliers, companies will go “Uuh, maybe give Anthropic a skip just in case…”, however palatable they may be.

    Anthropic’s tech would have to be overwhelmingly better than its competitors for AI customers to ignore the risk of losing potential business due to the supply chain poisoning effect of the DoD’s classification, and they’re not that much better.

    That’s the tragedy of the DoD’s vile decision.

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    • MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m not sure whether you realize how incredibly toxic the US is becoming right now… Anthropic made the right call, history-wise.

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      • ragepaw@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Not to mention the utter American arrogance of stating that because the US doesn’t like something, the rest of us will blindly follow along.

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    • OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not sure I care overly much about the fate of the amoral corporation getting fucked over by the fascist regime. They’re both juggernauts, and I would love to see them damage each other.

      Remember, the fallout wasn’t about the morality of the unsupervised spicy autocomplete killing people, it was about who had the liability when the AI went inevitably wrong. Had the DoD accepted the liability, I’m certain Anthropic would have sold the the stupidest version of skynet imaginable.

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      • Quexotic@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I’m on the fence about whether I agree with you because it’s kind of a toss-up as to whether that’s true in my mind. Put on the flip side of that, they were already neck deep in with the DoD anyway, so your argument is convincing, in that respect at least.

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    • remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Companies these days do what is right for their shareholders and if Claude makes money, or appears to make money, then the shareholders are happy.

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• t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This absolutely did not kill them. I’ve been dealing with federal procurement, including ATOs for DoD, for years, and 99% of companies never even remotely interact with it. Yes, there’s a large number that do, especially among Fortune 500s and up, but the actual percentage of companies who have military contracts is tiny. This was meant to intimidate them into compliance, but this doesn’t make them any less viable than AIaaS already is or isn’t.

  no company wants to become a supply chain risk to potential customers who might have a DoD supplier somewhere down the supply chain

  The order is actually much narrow than that; it only applies to companies who directly have contracts with the military.

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  • Quexotic@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I think the order actually is even more narrow than that in that it only deals with the part of the business that they do that has to deal that has to do with actual sensitive stuff that is, if the anthropic CEO is to be believed.

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• Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Pretty much the entire industry is siding with Anthropic though.

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  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not to mention that many organizations have been making agreements with anthropic before this all happened. Sure DoD has money, but not nearly the large amount of private sector money.

    The collapse of this bubble is going to be enormous though.

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