We did, several times, the last time he had a real chance and the DNC conspired against him. Try it fucking again neo-lib.
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rumba@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Let’s flip that over.
Leftists, you have two years to put forth an incredibly well-funded candidate that’s more palatable to the ultra-rich, corporate sponsors, left, and the right than the DNC/RNC candidates. You need more than 50% by a decent margin because they’re not going to let you in, you need half the boomers and genexers and youngbloods out there to write in a name.
OR
Once again, you’ll be here figuring out weather you’d rather vote for DNC or not at all and let RNC take us for another ride.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
rumba@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
We did, several times,
You did not.
- incredibly well funded palatable to :
- ultra-rich
- corporations
- left
- right
Bernie hit +2 at best. And among the historic independent options, he’s been by far the best.
If you’re trying to get them into the DNC, that’s never going to happen. You’re never going to get an actual choice in the DNC pick. They don’t need to conspire. They can simply say now.
You need an independent that’s better than 50% popular. You’re not getting that with a +2.
It’s honestly probably a unicorn, maybe a pegasus.
We’re pretty screwed until we replace what’s here with something real and fair. But you’re not getting that through half measures or by not voting.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
And comes the purity testing. We didn’t put forward a perfect candidate so throw him out. Same as it ever was.
rumba@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
What you just said makes no sense in putting together an independent candidate. How does an independent candidate get thrown out?
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
You’re getting downvoted but you’re seeing the big picture.
The way elections work now, Democrats know they don’t have to cater to coastal cities. They got the big EC votes in the bag as long as they pay minimal lip service
Not so much because “vote blue no matter who”, moreso “republicans are verifiably, objectively evil and the system is rigged to prevent a third party from succeeding, so this is the only choice”.
No, the real battle is the purple states.
When you consider the current media landscape (and mainly the fact that nearly all local and national broadcast and print media is owned by pedos or pedo sympathizers?", I sincerely do not think that a progressive message will be able to penetrate that information bubble deep enough to get the state.
So they gotta cast a net that appeals to a majority of those voters.
Which is probably not possible with a PoC or any body who sits to pee, which is another problem all together.
rumba@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
It’s an ml instance. The downvotes are the only way you know you’re getting it right. ;)
If there is a fair and free election, it will be because the current administration has failed to corrupt the system, which is a fleeting chance at best
hraegsvelmir@ani.social 1 day ago
How did has that big picture thinking worked out for them? Considering they couldn’t take the presidency or either chamber of Congress, it doesn’t look like it’s worked so swell. Egads, could it be that the holy DNC has screwed up and it’s their fault? Heavens, no, it must be the ignorant peasants, too feeble of mind to understand the profound strategems of the DNC.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
Your missing the other possible reason why Republicans got the trifecta: the country is shifting right.
That’s likely because the Dems hadn’t invested in their own propaganda machine. But it helps that most of the country is racist, sexist, xenophobes.
hraegsvelmir@ani.social 1 day ago
Ah, yes, the DNC, famous for having worked out so well in steering the party away from being nigh-indistinguishable from their main opposition. An excellent position from which to mock those dissatisfied with, let me check my notes, ah yes, how the DNC itself shat the bed in the last elections.
rumba@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
So you want me to vote for the RNC? You’re throwing out mixed signals here. You… happy wither where we are?
hraegsvelmir@ani.social 1 day ago
No, you want to play this dumb game of Schröndinger’s leftists, where we are simultaneously a group too small to merit making any concessions to, yet also such a massive force that our not voting for Dems apparently decides elections all on their own, thus fair grounds to single out for extra scolding this go around of it. I’m just pointing out the DNC leadership is suspiciously holding pistols of the same caliber as the weapons that put those nice holes in their feet. We got here with them insisting they know what their constituents really want better than even the constituents themselves do, and it worked out swimmingly for them the last go of it.
I’m calling you out specifically for engaging in such stupid and disingenuous activity with your nonsensical flip. The DNC are not the last bastion of political genius in this country, and managing to lose the last election should be an indictment of their strategies and platforms employed. Going to the right to become the GOP-lite didn’t work, so obviously, the solution is to browbeat leftists and whip out some non sequitur about them raising their own candidate with the funds to beat the entrenched political establishment, rather than maybe considering for even a fraction of a second that the DNC’s own strategies and their tendency to cave and give the GOP everything they want on a platter while also gaslighting constituents about key factors like how well the economy is doing might have a tiny bit to do with their inability to win elections or get policy pushed through.
But yes, it’s the leftist who have ruined everything by not voting for Kamala last go of it. Just a thought, but if any single group is so powerful as to singlehandedly decide the outcome of national elections like the blue MAGA brigade has been whining about leftists doing on here since the elections finished, wouldn’t it make a bit more sense to actually listen to those people and throw them a bone on occasion? But no, it’s clearly the leftists fault for not waiting their turn when Kamala had seniority in the party, and they need to be punished and ridiculed further, even if it costs the Democrats more elections.
rumba@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I didn’t say any of that
I said
Tell me where I went wrong specifically