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WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

A LOT of guys here would pretty much say “Yea, it’s bad, but that’s just how human brains work, we are wired a certain way, heard mentality, blah blah blah.” and that shit does not sound right. Glad you are combating that

What I never get about this is…does not your very existence refute this argument? If you’re a 20-something male and convinced that your genetics just doom you forever to celibacy…how exactly do you explain your own existence? Unless you are the result of a rape, you, by definition, have the genes necessary to attract a partner. After all, everyone in your family line prior to you managed to do it. If your genes were so incredibly bad that literally no one would want you as a partner, then your parents would have never gotten together, and you wouldn’t exist.

No one springs forth fully formed from the brow of Zeus. The very existence of an incel disproves incel theology.

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supamanc@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
That doesn’t necessarily hold up though. A ceasar salad is delicious. So is pistachio ice creme. The result of mixing the two however…

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- WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Sure, but the features incels obsess over are almost always features their own father possesses.
  
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  - idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I remember being about 6 years old and having the thought that I wished my dad had chosen a partner with less stubby toes. It probably took another decade and a half before it hit me how fucked up that was.
    
    I don’t even know why I thought having unstubby toes would make a difference to anything. To make it more ridiculous, I have a birthmark on one foot that used to make me so self conscious that I kept my feet hidden from everyone until college. Who did I think was going to see my feet and reject me?
    
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bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
An incel could make the point that the internet changes the calculus, or that “ugly” people can be born to “beautiful” parents, or any other number of counterpoints.

You can’t use logic and reason to argue someone out of a conclusion they have arrived at for emotional reasons. Lots of men and boys have been socialized in a really bad way, which makes them unappealing partners. Realizing, accepting, and working to change that, is extremely hard. Instead, with “bad” genetics, then the failures aren’t actually your fault, and you don’t need to change.

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