Minor correction. Islam is the religion. Islamism is, essentially, the attempted application of said religion into politics or state law.
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ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 16 hours agoThat kind of statement can only apply to ideas and attitudes that also respect diversity. Christianity and Islamism taken at face value are exclusionary of all other religions. A “true” believer therefore has a moral imperative of destroying diversity in order to protect other people.
This is not saying all or even most followers of these religions will follow that path, but that they need to water down or ignore some of the core theology to fully operate in a diverse society.
lastweakness@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
It’s fairly contradictory, actually. With the whole punishing the children of sinning fathers, then having a verse that says that the sins of the father are not the sins of the son, or something like that.
TL;DR, depends on if you are old testament?
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 12 hours ago
The problem is not in the old testament. Mainstream judaism doesn’t claim you need to a jew to achieve salvation.
alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
Actually there are schools of theology in both of these religions that enshrine diversity and embrace interoperability with other religions. They are just not mainstream because guess what? Mainstream religion is owned by power, and all that power is fascist essentially. Sure enough there are no true believers in anything but power in mainstream religions, start stripping them down on theology field and they reveal it.
I mean, just have a look at any works by Hakim Bey and Tim Morton’s latest book.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Christianity is arguably the historically most successful attempt at centralizing power. And it was a political tool from start.
IronBird@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
ah, but if you completely ignore all that you can pretend it’s just a harmless religion