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It’s been happening for a while; they keep wanting to make it “darker and edgier” which started with some episodes of TNG (The pegasus) and just kept getting worse (deep space 9).

During TOS, things were not exactly properly utopian either, but I haven’t watched enough to comment properly.

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skribe@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Undiscovered Country was considered too militant by Roddenberry. IIRC Nimoy agreed, but only decades later.

The problem for Star Trek is that utopias are hard to write (they’re considered boring or to cerebral for TV) and are usually reliant on external forces for their conflict. TOS was full of episodes where ‘the other’ upset the utopian balance. While I love/prefer TOS, younger audiences tend to find the episodes unsatisfying, even twee.

Since TNG, conflict has come more and more from within Star Fleet/Federation rather than the monster of the week. That inevitably leads down a darker/dystopian path.

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- Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  TOS was full of episodes where ‘the other’ upset the utopian balance. While I love/prefer TOS, younger audiences tend to find the episodes unsatisfying, even twee.
  
  Since TNG, conflict has come more and more from within Star Fleet/Federation rather than the monster/planet of the week.
  
  My favorite episodes are the ones where there is some sci-fi problem, and they try to fix the issue. Or they have to mediate some problem with some aliens based on some pragmatic problem. They get presented with some moral dilemmas, and act in a moral way, and go somewhere else.
  
  There’s no need to lie to romulans, bomb planets, etc.
  
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  - skribe@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Does that mean you’re a fan of Threshold? Cracking Warp 10 is a sci-fi perform, no? 🤣
    
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    Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    haven’t seen the hot lizard on lizard action, maybe when my wife gets to that ep of voyager.
    
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