You can go 25mph and faster on a bicycle no problem, I reject the argument that e-bikes (not e-moto) are a significant danger. That's mostly cabrain propaganda that people who chose to stop thinking accept.
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surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let me rephrase: Australians concerned about children on vehicles that can go 25mph with no requirement for a license or training.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not unless you are are really gunning it and on a fitted road bike.
There is a pretty big psychological aspect to it in that without putting in the work, you can become disconnected in how fast you are accelerating/moving. With bicycles you tend to work up the speed as you start to understand and get comfortable with what you are riding; a process that isn’t really present with e-bikes.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s 25 KILOMETERS an hour. I often end up cycling faster than my ebike motor can keep up with.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Fitted road bike? I do it regularly on a 3x7 hardtail MTB loaded down with pannier bags and a frame bag. That's not downhill, that's on a flat. I am just an ordinary bike commuter too, not an athlete and I have a low end steel Trek meant for single track MTB riding. It weighs at least 30 lbs with all my stuff on it.
I think you are overestimating how hard it is to go fast with little to no training and the right gear, even someone who doesn't ride regularly could probably hit 20 on a flat if they tried. Downhill you can hit 35mph+ even if you aren't in shape and barely know how to ride.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
or you are going down a big and somewhat steep hill, in that scenario your point doesnt work
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
The issue is more that they sell 500-1000W ebikes that are not specced for road usage, only for riding on private ground - and then hand them to teenagers. As so often, the parents are the issue, not the teens. As so often, everyone will pay the price for it through stricter regulation.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Honestly 1000 W would be nice for going up steep hills. My 500 W one struggles on the one on my commute
9point6@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A dude got up to 90mph on a bike just off his own steam before
I remember all the adverts when I was a kid telling me that if I got hit by a car at 30mph there was a 90% chance I’d live (this was the happy path of the advert). This is also cars ostensibly driven by licensed people.
E-bikes with a 25mph limiter are not a risk if we allow cars in the same space as pedestrians
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
25 kmph, that’s about 15 mph.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah sure, but we’re not going to create laws just for Lance fucking Armstrong.
franzfurdinand@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
90 on a bike? That’s nuts, do you have a link to that? I’d like to see what kind of a machine that is
9point6@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honestly I remember someone telling me and I’ve never seen it myself so I went looking
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cycling_records
Turns out there’s even faster now
pedz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The article doesn’t mention any “miles per hour”. Do people in Australia use mph?
In December, the NSW premier, Chris Minns, announced a plan to halve ebikes’ power – and therefore reduce their top speeds – to 250 watts…
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No. It’s kph. Ebikes are restricted to 25 kph.
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
These are not enough ebikes.
They are 1000w twist throttle bikes they buy on eBay and AliExpress.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
25 kph, not mph. Which isn’t very fast.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
That's pretty close to my average speed and I'm just a commuter on a 30lb hardtail MTB with shitty infrastructure. I'd wager anyone who can ride a bike can easily go faster than that on a flat, even if they weren't a regular rider.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I googled top e-bike speeds.