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• Klox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That’s somewhat my point. They were not having those thoughts, but using memes in a way that it could be construed.

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  • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If they didn’t know is there any real harm? Maybe later on they’ll learn and have a cringy memory to come back to.

    Downvotes on my previous comment are suspicious. We’re on one of the most privacy minded communities there is and they’re supporting actively going through the personal messages of an 11 year old kid.

    My parents would not have liked what conversations I had at 11, but knowing that I could express myself without someone hawking through my every thought.

    If I was in your kid’s situation, I would never share anything with you. Having the thought police actively hanging over my every conversation would be a nightmare.

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    • Klox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Well my kid was texting other middle age kids from her school. There’s already been cases of kids screenshotting conversations that are just “between friends” to share with others. I also have no idea what those kids are aware of – maybe they have seen these movies and understand the memes better than she does.

      Yeah, there is a shit load of potential harm. Are you not aware of cyber bullying? Are you not aware of how mean kids can be? You think kids fully understand gaslighting, manipulation, and scams? Most adults don’t understand this, and this privacy forum thinks I should just let the events unfold randomly for my kids? I am not being a helicopter parent simply by monitoring and educating my kids. I understand the stereotype. I discuss science, philosophy, politics, finances, privacy, anonymity, permanence of digital communications, atheism, world tragedies, case studies in exploitation/scams, and dozens of other topics with my kids.

      My spouse and I are both sex positive, so it’s not that it’s something we “dislike” our kids discovering. Frankly, we are excellent parents because it’s something we value, discuss, and try to be intentional about. But thinking they will just intuitively navigate digital communication is very naive. We have an excellent relationship and I I’ll do my best to keep making it stronger. I hope they will feel comfortable coming to me for any topic, including sex. I’ll basically be setting them up with a much better understanding of the values of privacy than 99% of parents.

      But kids are dumb. You can’t just lecture at them. They are learning, but they are dumb, and will make mistakes as they learn. Why would I not be involved in that?

      I appreciate the conversation. I fully expected a lot of downvotes on an anonymous privacy sub about kids not having privacy. It doesn’t bother me. Someone asked an interesting question about the intersection of kids and privacy, and it’s a topic I am passionate about. So yeah, I am happy to defend my choices as a parent if there’s more questions even if it goes against the norms of the community.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Frankly, we are excellent parents

        i have never known a competent parent to say this

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    And now you’re outing your child’s private conversations to the general public?

    What the hell is wrong with you?

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    • Klox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Last I checked this is an anonymous platform. I also generally rotate accounts when it feels relevant. You have a problem speaking about generalities in a public platform? The more specific example seemed necessary to clarify the discussion.

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      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Being generous, what you described doesn’t seem unreasonable on its own. My criticism is based on the context of this discussion: using stuffed animals to record children.

        You responded to a query about whether using stuffed animals to record children violated children’s privacy with “In my experience, absolutely not.”

        Re-reading your points, you seem to be talking about supervising text conversations between kids. That’s a completely separate issue. It can be reasonable to read their conversations, if you have raised this possibility with them, and discussed the purpose of doing so.

        But this thread is about IoT Teddy Bears, not text messages. Charitably, I have to assume you are simply off topic, and my only real criticism is that discussing the contents of those messages with anyone but them violates their privacy.

        If and when a kid comes across this discussion, I want to make sure they are aware of just how egregious a violation it is to have hidden recording devices in their personal space. In most jurisdictions, recording without the knowledge and consent of at least one party to the conversation is considered “wiretapping” or “eavesdropping”, and is not just a violation of their privacy; it is a criminal act. If anyone - including your parents - has listening or other recording devices installed in your personal space, you should tell teachers, guidance counselors, principals, and similar trusted adults.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    OH NO, CUM? EWWWWWWW

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• Klox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Middle schoolers don’t need to be sexting classmates, even if it is accidental. Are you a moron every day or just today?

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  • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sending suggestive memes unintentionally suggestive is not sexting.

    I guess every day but nowhere near as much as you.

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