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TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Judaism isn’t as expansionist as Islam, but I’ll give you that the orthodox community is absolutely awful to women and children, and there are violent extremist sections like in Islam. We should abolish both - and also Christianity, while we’re at it.

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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Arout 90% of Jews worldwide are Zionists, meaning they are striving to ethnically cleanse the Middle East for Lebensraum and replace everyone with Jews.

Last time I checked it wasn’t Palestinian Muslims or Christians destroying eachothers holy sites.

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Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It’s funny how I was fighting Christianity for years and the left said nothing, if anything they cheered me on, now I fight Islam for far worse reasons (the recent bondi massacre, mass murder across the middle east and africa, the constant undermining of Australian values, I am fundamentally opposed to the hijab, literally fucking ISIS etcetc) and it makes what I was making fun of Christians for look like childs play (intelligent design, the bible isn’t accurate, does god really exist etc)

I never imagined far left people like geneva_convenience would end up falling off a cliff and sounding like a nazi, horseshoe theory is real eh?

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- BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  It’s funny how I was fighting Christianity for years and the left said nothing
  
  Did you have your head in lead lined box?
  
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- geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Sounds like a lot of Zionist whataboutism
  
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  - Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I wasn’t replying to you, my response to you was here:
    
    aussie.zone/post/29041859/21087965
    
    You asked if I could swap in Islam with Judaism, and my answer was no, because they’re not comparable at all.
    
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    geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Alright thank you for proving my point.
    
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- TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  People seem to think just because they’re a minority in Western countries (they’re NOT in the middle east) they deserve moral protection, kr something. It’s really weird.
  
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- Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Stop fighting this broad amorphous thing called ‘religions’. Fight policies, fight extremist ideologies of all kinds, afterall they generally end up with very similar policies of a need to dominate and top heavy hedonistic wealth accumulation.
  
  For example, theres plenty of shit atheists, being a good person isn’t in what you purport to believe, its in what you do and act on every single day. By this measure theres plenty of good christians, jews, hindus, muslims, atheists, et al.
  
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  - Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    fight extremist ideologies of all kinds
    
    I do largely? I’m very anti-nazi but it’s just there’s one very clear extremist ideology that’s killing my friends that everyone seems to be dancing around
    
    For example, theres plenty of shit atheists
    
    When atheists shoot up Bondi killing 15, take hostages in the lindt cafe, wave the atheist flag while decapitating, torturing and beheading across the middle east and africa
    
    If atheists start demanding women cover themselves up from head to toe, throw gays off of rooftops, suicide bomb, behead, gang rape
    
    Or to bring it back to Australia: Even as simple as get infiltrated by evil dictator worshippers (who recently got potentially up to 30,000 Iranian civilians killed) with somehow everyone around not even noticing??? Who’s the greens member in the photo?
    
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    Or getting ISIS flags waved on the Sydney Harbour Bridge for the first time:
    
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    I’ve already had a go at the ‘former atheist’ and absolute dork Jihadi Jake:
    
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    The Australian government is investigating unconfirmed reports that an Australian teenage Muslim convert who ran away to join Islamic State (IS) has carried out a suicide attack in Iraq. Details of casualties were not immediately known. Last year, he talked online to BBC Newsnight’s Secunder Kermani.
    
    www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-31845428
    
    But again, look who’s involved :P
    
    Also jeez 2015, damn I been complaining for a long time
    
    By this measure theres plenty of good christians, jews, hindus, muslims, atheists, et al.
    
    Yes I can say this as well, there’s many very nice Muslims, some who drink and don’t pray daily, some who barely follow it at all, cultural muslims in the same way as cultural christians
    
    But would you ever say there’s plenty of good Nazi’s? If you don’t talk politics I think you’ll find many are perfectly cromulant to have a chat to, and we have to remember, the majority of Nazi’s were just ordinary German (and ((Vichy)) French) civilians, they didn’t hurt anyone :)
    
    But despite them being good people, it’s still a bad ideology, and I want nothing to do with it.
    
    Like we can debate judiasm and christianity, but debating Islam is the only one that’ll get me killed
    
    There’s nothing else like Islam, not even close:
    
    Counter Terrorism Strategy 2022-2025: Appendix A - Persons charged with terrorism-related offences in Victoria 2005-2022
    
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    …gov.au/…/appendix-persons-charged-terrorism-rela…
    
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    Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That answer has displayed, yet again, a complete lack of understanding of the individual and societal drivers that cause radicalisation. Religion is the excuse, but anger has causal connections to people’s material wellbeing, such as economic stability, subjugation as a group or as an individual (think about the M.O. for all those US school shooters, they’re often like your example of jihadi jake).
    
    The simple answer of ‘Islam is the target’ is at best selfish to our physical selves in our own time and leaves any manner of ongoing issues for future generations to deal with.
    
    Bondi??? Come on…
    
    What do you reckon the beliefs of the Bondi stabber were? Despite the false and societally damaging claims of Islamist, he was defintiely not, and probably christian or atheist (doesn’t say what though). What about Desi Freeman, or any of the murderers in this post.
    
    These are all radicalised people, harming others. Islamist terror attacks might be more numerous against Australians now, but they won’t be forever, and by targeting the group and not the root societal causes you leave the real problems to fester and harm different groups of people, out of each different group (religious or other) some will be radicalised.
    
    Stalin, Pol-pot, Lenin, Mao all claimed at one stage or another to be atheists, they’re examples for you of truly terrible atheists, they had communist ideologies, but not religion. I find it hard to believe Stalin really had an ideology though, he was just pedo cunt I think, so of you really want a non-ideological mass murderer try him, or the Kim (NK) clan.
    
    Also, you can say Islam is a bad ideology, and you want nothing to do with it. Thats okay, best thing to do is move through your life without going out of your way at every instance to attack Islam as a group with examples of individuals of that group showing their personal extremism. By attacking the group, we only fan the persuasive flames of the radicals exploiting the existing prejudices and causes of societal dejection these often, young men, feel.
    
    To take your examples of the bridge flag cunts. If you blamed those people, and said what dickheads are they, instead of blaming all Islam for what ISIS represents, (which is how it comes across in your comments), I think you’d have a much better reaction from people. But instead your comments flatten the beliefs of millions of people under one homogeneous identity.
    
    A personal source to end: I grew up with a Muslim, one of the most peaceful bastards I know. I also grew up with atheists, one of those I just found out beat and emotionally tormented his ex-wife. Go figure.
    
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    Nath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    When atheists shoot up Bondi killing 15, take hostages in the lindt cafe
    
    theguardian.com/…/invasion-day-rally-perth-man-ch…
    
    Incompetence/luck is the only reason this type of scenario didn’t play out in Perth yesterday.
    
    Morons are going to Moron. They come in all shapes and sizes, all nationalities and religions (or no religion). Lumping them all together with people who aren’t morons is just silly.
    
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BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Currently it’s more expansionist than Islam. Also lol at “We should make it illegal to believe an abrahamic religion.” Least authoritarian Australian.

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- TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I’d need a source on Judaism being expansionist. From what I learned, they actively discourage converts, and the world population is in the millions, not over a billion as Islam is. Also, by abolish, I didn’t mean legally prohibit belief. That would never work, anyway, god is a higher authority than the law. I just meant we should get rid of the religions - through education, teaching critical thinking, valuing truth, etc. And certain harms carried out by religion should also be made illegal, but that’s not restricting belief, just harmful actions that affect other people - as we already do.
  
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