I’ve tried explaining this to people, and they just don’t get it. They say philosophy is just some pointless, meaningless, armchair activity. I tell them, “All fields of study are a subdiscipline of philosophy” and they call me a misinformed idiot.
Like, dude, whatever you study, the field itself wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t firet developed by philosophers upon a philosophical foundation that was in turn developed by generations of philosophers.
The history of philosophy is the history of human ideas and of humanity itself. All of the sciences, both hard and soft, are simply highly specialized fields of philosophy.
Something that I often end up ranting about when I’ve had a few drinks at the pub is how I wish that all science education included some philosophy. I don’t mean as a brief, one off unit, but actually woven throughout.
I actually got really into learning about the philosophy of science because I found this insufficiency became apparent when learning about machine learning systems in the context of bioinformatics and protein structure prediction. There were some absolutely brain-dead takes in papers that seemed to believe that big data methods have the potential of basically removing scientists from the process of science. Fortunately, there were also papers that called this out as nonsense, because expert knowledge is more important than ever in building and using machine learning systems.
Shout out to Sabine Leonelli, author of Data-Centric Biology: A Philosophical Study, which was the book I read that looked at this in detail. Her work is what really cemented my passion for the philosophy of science, and got me into philosophy more generally.
I’ve een this xkcd expanded with philosophy way off to the right saying something like “hey, what are all of you talking about over there?” since philophy was the first asking “how?” or “why?” and all the others came later as more directed persuits of those individual questions. Philosophy first and foremost teaches logic and rhetoric, through which all sciences rely on.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Indeed. But the sense of these words changed since they were adopted. Originally they just meant “teacher of general studies”.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I like to think that they evolved in parallel, as Philosophy underpins all interpretations.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I’ve tried explaining this to people, and they just don’t get it. They say philosophy is just some pointless, meaningless, armchair activity. I tell them, “All fields of study are a subdiscipline of philosophy” and they call me a misinformed idiot.
Like, dude, whatever you study, the field itself wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t firet developed by philosophers upon a philosophical foundation that was in turn developed by generations of philosophers.
The history of philosophy is the history of human ideas and of humanity itself. All of the sciences, both hard and soft, are simply highly specialized fields of philosophy.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Something that I often end up ranting about when I’ve had a few drinks at the pub is how I wish that all science education included some philosophy. I don’t mean as a brief, one off unit, but actually woven throughout.
I actually got really into learning about the philosophy of science because I found this insufficiency became apparent when learning about machine learning systems in the context of bioinformatics and protein structure prediction. There were some absolutely brain-dead takes in papers that seemed to believe that big data methods have the potential of basically removing scientists from the process of science. Fortunately, there were also papers that called this out as nonsense, because expert knowledge is more important than ever in building and using machine learning systems.
Shout out to Sabine Leonelli, author of Data-Centric Biology: A Philosophical Study, which was the book I read that looked at this in detail. Her work is what really cemented my passion for the philosophy of science, and got me into philosophy more generally.
fishos@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve een this xkcd expanded with philosophy way off to the right saying something like “hey, what are all of you talking about over there?” since philophy was the first asking “how?” or “why?” and all the others came later as more directed persuits of those individual questions. Philosophy first and foremost teaches logic and rhetoric, through which all sciences rely on.