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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They stole the ideas we stole!

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No one stole anything. Chinese battery tech is a decade ahead of anyone.

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    • lemonSqueezy@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But it’s true. The standard Chinese model is to steal all IP, from all tech that they do not yet control. They use cheap labor to import all manufacturing from developed countries. Then, they steal the IP and turn around and make it theirs. That’s how they’ve caught up so fast from a closed out isolated farming hermit for decades, into a modern powerhouse that wants to take over the world.

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      • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        IP is a bullshit concept that slows down the progress of humanity. They take what is learned and improve on it then sell that because why the fuck wouldn’t you. The only people who have a problem with this are moronic capitalists that say “grrr how dare you improve my technology before I earn my money from it! It’s my idea! I own it forever”.

        There is maybe some debate about a small reasonable period to allow someone to recoup r&d costs. On the other hand we can look to an example like during Covid: American pharma companies were not sharing research about mRNA vaccines with each other or the world in the hopes of being “the first” and the financial gains that would come with this. Accelerating this process through collaborative effort would’ve literally saved tens of thousands of lives. This was often defended by Americans who are so indoctrinated they couldn’t possibly conceptualize a world without this approach. “Of course Pfizer needs the IP? How else will they make their money??”

        We excuse it because most of the time it doesn’t really matter. A slightly better phone or laptop or whatever is not a huge deal. But then you see things like the Covid example and start to wonder: if that broke down and everything was basically “open source” how much further along would we be?

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      • lemonSqueezy@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The american companies are ok with it because of capitalism. The executive team gets a generous salary, bonus. Or they believe that they are ok with giving away decades worth of engineering research and development for cheap labor, and that at the arms race American engineering will always be one step ahead, so they will never lose market share.

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I was joking, but yes China has perfected and created even better technologies.

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