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chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 hours agoYeah, the solution is to orient society in such a way where the operation of a deadly, several ton method of conveyance isn’t a requirement to participate in the world. Public transit, biking, and people-oriented spaces. Fuck cars
Windex007@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Fine. The person operating the subway train. Should they be drunk? Should they have needed to demonstrate competency in operating a subway?
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Yes, because that would be their job and they wouldn’t be excluded from society if they fail to live up to that. They’d just take public transit like anyone else.
I’m saying “systems need to be oriented towards people and how they act, rather than punishing people for being unable to act in a way that they’re not wired for”. This hypothetical grocery store punishes people for being minorly thoughtless to spare other people the indignity of having to say something or silently suffer with the minor inconvenience.
It takes a human interaction with low stakes and turns it into a systemic interaction where harm to people becomes an abstract thing, so harm tends to become more prolific.
Windex007@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I could get behind you on this if the post was saying that all grocery stores must have that limitation. In the subway example, it’d be like saying that the only labour that exists is being a subway driver. The calculus changes when, like you said, it’s mandatory.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
If this idea was implemented and had any amount of popularity it would spread everywhere like wild fire cause it’d be one more thing
to crush the poor withcater to white people whocan’t be fucked to talk to peopledon’t want to be inconvenienced. People usually don’t have much choice in what stores they have access to (see food deserts)