Comment on "The Next Subnautica" aims to deliver underwater survival spooks in early 2025

• Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I personally don’t know anyone, let alone know how anyone plays first-person games with inverted camera controls.

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  • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I grew up on joysticks and flight simulators so when I got my hands on an Xbox controller to play Halo it felt more natural to me.

    Years later and id switched to normal, and now just use M+K on PC but I understand why someone would want it as an option.

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I did the inverted vertical mouse for ages for the same reason, and then one day it just stopped working for me. I think I’d tried other systems and come back to my PC and it suddenly felt wrong. Then I went to normal mouse controls and discovered aiming was more natural and smoother, and I’d probably been sabotaging my aiming by forcing an extra layer of abstraction into it.

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      • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That honestly sounds terrible. Part of me is tempted to try playing a game like that just to see how it is.

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    • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I definitely understand for flight sims and other aviation games like Ace Combat, but it still seems more intuitive to tilt the stick in the direction you want to look, rather than the opposite direction.

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      • ripripripriprip@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is the way. Any time I’m a pilot, it’s invented. Shooter, normal.

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  • Fal@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t know how anyone doesn’t. You’re controlling a camera. It’s how cameras/views have been controlled since graphics were invented. Just like when controlling a camera, to look up and left you would pull down and right.

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    • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not sure if the only cameras you’re thinking of are tv/movie cameras or not, but cameras have been controlled non-invertedly for as long as I can remember.

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      • Fal@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What? Literally all cameras are controlled invertedly. It’s literally how human biomechanics work too. To look up, you tighten the muscles in the back of your neck, pulling your head back

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• Fal@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Try playing a platformer where left moves your character to the right, and right moves left. AND down moves them up and up moves them down. You’d see how that’s unplayable, right?

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  • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait do you actually want your X axis inverted too?

    I think you’re just weird, dude. Adjust.

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    • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wait do you actually want your X axis inverted too?

      Baldur’s Gate 3, its camera x-axis is inverted by default (Q looks right, E looks left).

      Took me a while, but I adjusted.

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    • Fal@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Of course, how does it possibly make sense to only invert 1 axis? That seems to be the crazy option. Subnautica actually does support only inverting 1 axis (is it Y? Not sure), but not both.

      In super mario 64, you click C left to look right because you’re controlling the camera. Just like every other game ever, you’re controlling a camera. Whether you’re looking at the back of the head of your character or not. When you’re using motion controlled aiming, and you have to look up and to the left, what do you do? You pull back on the controller, and rotate the device to the right. It’s crazy to me that you would use different motion when you’re controlling with a joystick versus controller physically

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      • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sounds like it’s just what you grew up on, which as I explained I understand. It felt more natural to me to just use inverted Y axis because of flight sims, but Eventually I just changed because the times changed and standards changed. I didn’t want to be the guy that had to go in and change his settings whenever someone passed me a controller so I just adapted.

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