You’re really implying a considerable age difference here though, and that’s not really implied in either the original fake story or the hypothetical posed here. It’s not like dating an old friend of their parents, it’s more like dating their childhood best friend.
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Signtist@bookwyr.me 12 hours agoSure, people can just be that weird, and maybe most instances are, but any time you’re dealing with a situation where someone is having sex with a person who knew and had influence over them during childhood, it’s difficult to say they didn’t push a little too much to end up at this result.
It’s like a young adult dating an old friend of their parents; most people’s minds immediately go to that one time 10 years ago where they both disappeared for an hour in the middle of a barbecue and got kinda defensive about it afterward…
Red_October@piefed.world 9 hours ago
Signtist@bookwyr.me 8 hours ago
I mean, if the siblings are similar in age then yeah, I could see it being like a childhood best friend, but even a difference of, say, 4 years would be great enough that grooming could very well be in play.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
I must reiterate, I am not advocating for incest. When someone says “you can never be really sure that they are freely consenting”, my reaction is astonishment. Who is that person to judge what any of that means?
Signtist@bookwyr.me 11 hours ago
Who are we to worry about the wellbeing of our loved ones? We’re well-meaning adults in a situation where we can’t be certain they weren’t raped. We might be wrong and sticking our nose where it doesn’t belong, or we might be right and end up being the one person dedicated enough to save another person from a case of grooming. Those cases specifically rely on a person to dig too deep - they wouldn’t be uncovered otherwise.
It’s a difficult place to be in, which is why we shun those relationships from the get-go. Nobody wants to be in that situation, and there are enough people in the world to have sex with that we can afford to say “not anyone who specifically had a hand in influencing what your developing brain considered ’normal.’”
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
It’s a sensitive topic, and I’m not the most sensitive person, but I’m not out to be a troll. Rights to personal autonomy, and consent, and privacy are at the crux of it. But also people hurt other people and it’s good to look out for that and to help each other to prevent that. Just don’t be a dick, I guess. Don’t dictate feelings to a rational adult.
Signtist@bookwyr.me 11 hours ago
We’re definitely in agreement with that. Abuse is a tough subject to broach, and requires a lot of tact to do it right, but if someone is well-meaning, I don’t think the conversation itself should be shunned.
One time my sister’s husband got frustrated while trying to load a bunch of stuff into his car, and ended up throwing something in his frustration. It wasn’t at anyone or anything, but it was such a stark difference from how he normally acts that I felt the need to subtly take my sister aside and ask if he ever hit her. It was a bit awkward, but she knew that my heart was in the right place, so she assured me he wasn’t abusive, and even told him what I had asked to show him how his action looked to a third party, which caused him to take me aside to apologize and thank me for looking out for my sister.
All that to say, it’s good to care for your loved ones, and having mutual respect can let you poke your nose a bit deeper than usual so long as its for the right reasons. As a society we simply try to keep those situations from being necessary in the first place, which is why we tend to be uncomfortable with relationships that are at a higher risk of being abusive.