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Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

The Conservatives wanted to enthusiastically gargle Trump’s balls and move us closer to fascism.

I agree with the rest of your comment but this sentence stood out.

The Conservatives want to move us closer to Trump, but the Liberals are still moving us closer to fascism. Look at bills C-2 and C-12, which bring our border and immigration policies much more in line with the US.

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madcaesar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
That’s a separate issue and yes I agree, liberals aren’t saints and need to be checked, I’m just focusing on the whole Trump part.

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DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It’s a defensive posture. It’s those things that are keeping us from random 1,000,000% tariffs that would take a decade to litigate. Nobody wants it, but we kind of need to play along while we figure out how to get out of this mess.

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- Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Sure, just a little bit of fascism will be fine.
  
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  - DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Well your realpolitik option is a supersized portion with Poilievre. Until we get proportional representation we are all jadtage.
    
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    cecilkorik@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Voting for fascism is never the right choice. Even in a two-party system, everyone still has the option to not vote for either Kang or Kodos. “Throw your vote away” is always a valid electoral choice, and perhaps in some cases, the only morally defensible one. We even happen to have a still marginally viable third party, and even if all your vote is doing is keeping that third choice barely alive on the margins, that has its own form of validity too.
    
    Strategic voting is the opposite of strategic. It’s a short-term, single-election tactic that will result in a strategic collapse in the long term. You do not ever have to vote for one party to prevent the other party from getting in. That is not your responsibility, and if you do that, it’s not going to ever get better. You are sacrificing the future for the present, and the present is fleeting but the future is forever. We have to think longer term, or we will have absolutely no recourse when both of the top choices end up being unconscionable.
    
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