Comment on The college-to-office path is dead: CEO of the world’s biggest recruiter says Gen Z grads need to consider trade and hospitality jobs that don’t even require degrees

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• Butterphinger@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m a mechanic.

  a trade won’t help

  This is why I’m a mechanic. Forklifts have to work, or nobody works. Whether industry is rising or falling, something has to put it up and take it down.

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  • grey_maniac@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    HVAC specialists and cooling systems experts will probably be in high demand to keep the future AI overlord datafarms frpm overheating. They’ll become the new priest class lol

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    • Bakkoda@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m genuinely waiting for the calls to start back up. Every 3-4 years i get several calls from some of the big contacts i used to service asking if I’m available. I might just say yes this next time and quote done insane price and see where it gets me.

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Bingo. This is really dark but we used to do this as kids in the 90s when there was a similar fear of WW3 with Iraq. Shit hits the fan what can you do? Is your job worthwhile in a society where shit hits the fan? All the techbros are fucked. If you can fix a tractor? Or garden? Or sew? Build stable structures?

    Computers were a mistake 🤣

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• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Eh, I’m not buying the complete doom’n’gloom perspective. Complex skilled labor is still very difficult to automate.

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  • sobchak@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If everyone floods that market, they’ll be minimum wage jobs. The media always starts promoting various industries when the rich want to weaken labor power in that sector.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The article gives the example of a bartender. Not as much skill as other jobs but yes I’d expect that to be difficult to automate. Especially profitably. But that’s a far cry from claiming that is a job that can support a family with a middle class lifestyle

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    • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Some aspects of a bartender’s job are already automated - there are “robot bars” where machines prepare and serve drinks. What can’t be automated are the human aspects of the job, as much as AI can mimic conversation, it can’t do empathy or really any genuine emotion which is an important aspect of a bartender/server’s job

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        A pub near me has a serve-yourself beer wall that works pretty well without a bartender. It meters by the ounce but that means everything has to be the same price.

        I have no idea if that would scale to larger, busier places or where people are likely to get drunk

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      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Your asking these people to put a value on empathy?

        Their thinking: A customer wants a drink. Have the robot liquor dispenser create any drink the customer needs, and collect payment. Repeat as necessary. What else is required?

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  • sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I didn’t mean this in a doom kind of way. In many ways we have it pretty good nowadays, but some people don’t want to hear it. We have it really bad in lots of ways as well.

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• brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Electrical, plumbing, HVAC are all pretty solid.

  You aren’t outsourcing it. AI can’t take it. It’s manual labor.

  People will pay a lot to keep shit from flowing into their house.

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  • ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Electrical, plumbing, HVAC are all pretty solid.

    Heh no. All of those are being automated and dumbed down.

    In a few years all you’ll need is an unskilled labourer and a robot.

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We’ve seen robots struggling to handle picking up boxes for like a decade now. They’re still struggling with that. Tight spaced delicate movements isn’t in the near future, yet.

      Transportation is going to be the first industry majorly replaced by automation, not the trades.

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Knowing a trade, or even two, will serve you your entire life. There will always be someone in demand of your services.

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  • sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Same is true for most other jobs.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not necessarily. Soon, many jobs will be replaced by AI and robotics, or off-shored. For a few decades, software development was a path to a good, high-paying job, now many are losing to AI, and plenty of people will never work in their trained field again. That’s going to happen to more and more professions.

      Trades are different, they need to be on the job. You can’t fix a toilet with AI, or a call center in India. The plumber has to be in the same bathroom as the toilet. The electrician has to be near the outlet he’s wiring. A chef needs to be able send the food to the table while it’s still hot. it can’t be made in a factory somewhere.

      Robots may help, but they’ll never replace a tradesman.

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