I know many a furry. Most of them are perfectly average people who happen to have a "hobby" on the side (putting the word hobby in quotes as it is more of a lifestyle/identity, but these people don't make being a furry their entire identity), some of them are sexual deviants/freaks (nothing wrong with that mind you!), and a handful few are quite extreme when it comes to the topic...
You know what none of them are? Hateful, bigoted, fascists, or Nazis.
And honestly, I'd much sooner be friends with a wholesome dude who happens to enjoy getting fisted on stage by a dozen guys every weekend than someone who tries to commit a dozen hate crimes every weekend...
EonNShadow@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
There are Nazi furries but they’re ostracized from the rest of the community and banned from most cons/gatherings that aren’t run by them.
They’re only well-known because we don’t like them, and their inflammatory stuff goes viral in our spaces, and sometimes they hit escape velocity, getting exposed to the wider internet.
In reality like 85-90% of furs are left-wing to various degrees, and LGBTQ.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
“What is truth?” The only thing that matters in terms of establishing a group’s (very much permanent) reputation is what percolates to the general cultural zeitgeist of people who don’t know what the word hypertext means. When the insular furry communities of the Y2K era kicked out the weird freaks who were actively hostile to the ideas of kink consent, consent in general, and non-white people continuing to draw breath, they descended on 4chan and SomethingAwful and various other forums and pretty much instantly solidified the unsuspecting public’s idea of furries as being creepy Nazis. It’s not fair, but you only get one shot at establishing an eternal reputation and it’s more or less completely out of your control.
EonNShadow@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Yeah this sounds like a you problem.
Reputations are anything but eternal and public opinion can change. Sounds like you need to get with the times
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
“This is what I any many others observed” ≠ “These are the values I hold”
Be attentive to what you read instead of selectively interpreting it to match your emotional reaction to the general idea.
HatchetHaro@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
i love how you bring up sites where trolls and bigots congregate to make memes and spread misinformation to marginalize communities as a valid source.
it’s like saying “i read on the news about so and so” and then citing the onion.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Also known as the most widely-used sites on the WWW during years that I strongly suspect predate your birth. Try to keep in mind that feeling upset doesn’t mean you’re being lied to, it just means reality sucks.
Korne127@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have absolutely no idea what you think is the “public’s idea” (well, besides your description). But for the record, what you describe may be your idea, but that isn’t even remotely representative and definitely isn’t the general idea or definition. I think the votes here tell that as well.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Votes are meaningless, people vote emotionally and my instance doesn’t show me post or comment scores unless I use a specific app that I no longer have installed. I’m sorry you don’t have your finger on the pulse of normal socks-and-sandals slobs but for various reasons I do