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Comment on After GOTY pull, Clair Obscur devs draw line in sand: 'Everything will be made by humans by us'

BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

No AI in video games, period. We’ve learned when we draw the line the major players push at it until they get what they want. AI benefits the wealthy, no one else. AI data centers are a blight on communities.

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zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
But maybe if I use AI I can be wealthy. Sure it is accelerating climate change and will undoubtedly cost lives, but that is a small price to pay for me to horde money like a dragon.

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- BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I don’t think the typical person knows how destructive AI is to many things much less effects on local communities where they put data centers.
  
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IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
That’s a pretty reductive take. I consider auto-formatting a form of AI because that’s a function that I ask ChatGPT to do. “Reformat the code” “tidy it up.” But I’m assuming even that is “AI” to you because ChatGPT was involved. The level of “AI” that the Claire devs used seemed to be on the same level as what I just described. A tool to help get the ball moving but not be the sole engine of the project.

Also, you don’t need to use LLMs from companies like OpenAI or Google, you can just run your own LLM.

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- BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  We’ve seen this before with horse armor and gambling in video games. If you allow a little they are going to take a mile with it. That point I don’t consider it art anymore. AI is not art.
  
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dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
You‘ll need some AI so NPCs don’t just idle around.

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daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It’s good to have morals, but also to have realistic expectations.

We haven’t been able to stop dlc, micro transaction, gambling… I don’t think we would be able to stop AI in videogames.

I have the suspicion that all these quick and fast remakes in HD are pulling AI assets as crazy to be able to have results quickly and cheap.

Going too hard ln these devs, which doesn’t seem like bad people won’t ever change what EA. Ubisoft, Nintendo or any big player will do. It would only hurt this small studio for nothing.

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- BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  If that’s the case I’ll find another hobby. I’m tired of compromising myself because well they get away with it. AI Bros can blow me.
  
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  - daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    You do you. I’ve been decades doing political activism. I just advice to keep expectations checked because I’ve seen so many people burning themselves out of not being able to achieve unrealistic political goals, and, what’s worse, ending up picking on small innocent people because they are the only ones they can impose their will on.
    
    It’s good to keep making people conscious of the dangers of AI. But knowing what is expected, for yourself, and trying not to target people won’t deserve being targeted our of misdirected anger.
    
    My best approach is taking a constructive approach. Do something by hand myself and enjoying it.
    
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    BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    You’re talking to me like I haven’t been through decades of disappointment and in other areas. Me cutting things off is the last straw and thing I can readily do. Be it someone who says “welfare queens should die” to AI used for media. I know you cannot rightfully get away from supporting Amazon or that you have a choice of a soulless, big box store to buy at anymore. Just because I have to do so to maintain my ability to live doesn’t mean I won’t try to inform others about it and get them on my side. I’m just less patient with supreme levels of bullshit anymore.
    
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