I think it’s hard simply because browsing by /all, or even by communities you follow and then just in your main thread, is not set up to highlight the community or it’s rules. If something hits the front page of /all I’m rarely digging into the communities specific rules or even where it’s coming from to an extent. Only to say, it’s a learned behavior to care about the communities specifically in this site aggregator system.
Bingo. This is the classic ‘read the sidebar’ site from reddit. most users aren’t reading hte sidebar because the side bar doesn’t exist for them when they click in front the front page.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Wandering in, missing the rule sign, apologizing when you’re corrected fine. I’ve done it; the mods there couldn’t have been nicer about it. It’s not ideal, but the system works well enough; it’s the mods shouldering that burden more than anything.
…The problem is when the guys are corrected and keep talking anyway. Which I see happen a lot.
There is no excuse for that.
I feel extremely mixed about this, yeah. I feel weird even talking about it.
The women’s space… doesn’t prohibit lurking? On one hand, the community is public, and I’m curious about the perspective in the discussions. I’m interested in understanding them so I can be more respectful person myself.
…But I don’t want to violate their privacy either. Blocking is reasonable.
Read the room, yeah.
IMO TV fandoms shouldn’t worship their material. Negative discussion is allowed, otherwise the space gets toxic.
In fact, this kinda happened to one of my personal fandom spaces, /r/thelastairbender: among other things, they idolize ATLA (the original series) like a diety, to the point where anything different (including other material like Korra or the Netflix adaption) is demonized. Deeper stuff like the novels, fanfics or speculative lora is not welcome either.
That sucks. It’s all to common; the Star Wars fandom (for instance) is notorious for it. And its why some negativity and ‘outsider perspectives’ should be welcomed in such spaces.
The women’s space is different though. It’s basically a shelter from the shit this group puts up with IRL and online, so being more sensitive to barging in makes sense.
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I completely agree. I just wish I could systematically prevent myself from making any mistake lol, or like anyone from making the first mistake.
Anyone doing it intentionally is a dick and should be blocked. This is just an interesting problem for the platform we’re on and I’m excited to see how the Internet develops overtime to fix this.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
…I guess we theoretically could, via a Lemmy or Piefed PR, heh.
As an example, we could implement an opt-in feature that pops-up community rules before one is allowed to post. Kinda like Discord, but less obnoxious.
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I think that’s a great idea.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
how do you measure someone else’s intention behind an internet post? other than your own arbitrary judgement of it?
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I mean, I like the other reply to this comment as well, but if a man posts in an all women community twice in quick succession after being warned it’s pretty easy to assume their intentions are bad - right? Like there are things people can say or do that are so engrained in the behavior of bad faith actors that you can kinda spot them.
My point was just to reinforce that I agree with the notion that people can maliciously attempt to ruin a community or discourage individuals/groups from posting and that they should be banned. “No Nazi’s in the bar” kinda thing.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
That’s kinda the idea behind moderation.
It’s why it’s best done in small communites, as the context narrows the scope of the arbitrary judgement.