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Most Christians who know anything about the bible would say this is just a letter from Paul to Timothy on how to run the church in Ephesus, and not a doctrinal command from god.

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morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
But shouldn’t it be concerning that a figure as prominent as Paul would say such a thing?

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- technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yes. Dude is a fraud.
  
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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Isn’t that cherrypicking? If you discount what Paul says to Timothy as being applicable only to his church then you have to discount the rest:

" For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, "

“Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or disputing.”

There is nothing in the text to suggest that Paul was instructing only Timothy about a special case for his church. Paul said " I do not permit." He didn’t say, “You shouldn’t permit.”

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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The paragraph before it says this: “Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or disputing.”

So that too must be just a letter and not a doctrinal command from god.

And Paul says “I don’t permit.” Not “You shouldn’t permit.” So it’s also how the rest of the Christian church was run. It wasn’t a special instruction for Timothy because of special circumstances. Not that ANY circumstances justify such a prohibition.

“Don’t allow heresy.” is fine. Paul doesn’t doesn’t prohibit Men from teaching heresy or dressing immodestly. (The excuse some give is this was a letter because of the Cult of Artemis.)

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