Comment on On new installations, Android rebinds the power button to open up Google Assistant

• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I heard Google sent out emails to outlook customers suggesting they switch to Gmail when azure went down last week. A tongue in cheek response to edge asking folks to leave chrome.

  This timeline blows.

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• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How is this anti consumer? Just because you don’t like a thing doesn’t make it anti consumer.

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  • edible_funk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You don’t think replacing the single most universal function of an electronic device with their ad delivering spyware is anti-consumer? Fuck bud, what would you consider anti-consumer?

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    • Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      replacing the single most universal function

      For quite some time now, Apple and Samsung have had the shutdown menu behind a multi-button press (Lock + Vol +/-). In Apple’s case, it’s always required more than just the lock button.

      If anything, this is Google shifting to the ‘norm’, having multiple button presses be the default is ideal in preventing accidentally invoking the menu and shutting down the device.

      Far as “anti consumer” is concerned:

      ad delivering spyware

      Relative to most consumers, this perspective has you in the minority. Your average consumer is going to engage with this feature, this change makes the feature as accessible as possible so that you can do something like send a text with a single hand / button press.

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      • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have a first gen iPod Touch somewhere in a box here. It was press once to lock and turn off screen. Hold to get power menu.

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  • frunch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Find me a consumer that likes it and perhaps I’ll reconsider

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are people commenting on this very thread that they use the button for things other than power, and I know a few people in my personal life which is a pretty small sample size that use the assistants on that button.

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      • frunch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Does that justify changing its function without announcing it first? Because i had to Google how to turn off my god damn phone when it first happened to me, lol

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not about like or dislike. I’d have almost no complaints if they added a button or a unique gesture to open it, like they already had with holding the home button (looks like they may have removed that shortcut functionality). Or how some phones made the lock/power button touch sensitive so a touch (not press) or a swipe over it opened the assistant.

    But silently changing the function of a standard piece of UI/controls that have been standard for over a decade, and common on even slide phones since the fucking pre-smart phone era?

    I’m shocked that anyone actually needs this explained to them.

    It would rightfully be a news story if Honda’s newest car hid the window controls behind a settings menu, and what normally were window controls (still visually the exact same and located in the standard spot on the door) raised and lowered your seat instead.

    That’s all without getting into the mess that is a company trying to artificially pump user numbers of one of their products, or my personal dislike of these “assistants”.

    Internal emails from Google have become public through court cases which reveal that the rumor they were making search worse intentionally is true, and it was in order to inflate their ad impression numbers. There is no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt on this, and active explicit reasons to do the opposite.

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Was it a silent change? No mention in update notes or any marketing material? I truthfully don’t know, as I don’t have a phone affected by this.

      Also, not meaning to come off as defending Google. I’m not. I know they don’t need me to defend them.

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      • kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t think “update notes or any marketing material” qualifies for making this kind of change non-silent - if the update is pushed through the same channel as regular security updates, and doesn’t explicitly notify the user the behavior of the button has changed, that’s pretty silent.

        Often for those kinds of updates software will show a special introduction screen, tutorial, or outright a prompt asking you to choose between the new and old behavior - but that’s software from people that care about the user having a good experience, and making such changes is a big deal for them.

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  • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Could you explain your logic?

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    • frunch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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