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CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Depends on how you define civilization.

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  • Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And how you define “all this”

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    • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      *gestures at all*

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  • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hey, the NCR came after the Great War, right?

    Although I hope that’s not the bar we’re shooting for.

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  • mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’d put down a bet that Iceland is gonna be okay.

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    • FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That makes them suspicious if you ask me.

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• merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Civilization is doing pretty well outside the US. If the US disappeared tomorrow, the rest of the world would do significantly better. I don’t know how the world will deal with climate change, but without the US it would be easier to make progress. The tech firms blowing up the AI bubble, and invading our privacy are nearly all American. A lot of the private equity firms destroying the world are also American. If the US could hurry up and finish collapsing, the rest of the world’s civilization could just move on.

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  • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I put a lot of US’s problems as interfence from Russia and China to empower the far-right so that Russia has a customer base for oil, and China can race ahead in the green markets.

    I think a world without the US would just mean that Europe and South America are targeted in the same way

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think you’re overestimating the influence of Russia and China and underestimating the dysfunction in the US.

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      • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        The dysfunction in the US has always existed, but it never spilled over into politics quite to this degree.

        Russia was found to be sponsoring the NRA, and the rise of evangelicals as a voting group seems to be a co-ordinated world-wide phenomenon.

        Whilst one can blame the techbros and robber barons for exacerbating this, those same elites thrived more under stable economic growth than an unstable one

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the ultimate cause for most of the world’s problems is Russia and its decrepit fascism.

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      • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think also people forget how good the US was in being a stable pillar of free and open collaboration in the sciences worldwide.

        What is happening now is a major shift in that stability

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• cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The great thing now is that we are currently ending the world, so there won’t be anywhere for that civilization to be.

  If you want a future, kill your masters.

  If you want to kill yourself and everyone else, get yourself some weed and eggs Benedict, and just keep doing what you’re doing¹.

  ¹assuming you’re not spectacularly cool

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  • RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Agree with your sentiment internet friend, but might want to drop that last sentence. We, uh, did go to the moon, right? Right?

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    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Moon orbits what?

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      • RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ok then we have different definitions of “orbit” and “leaving.”

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