I like how this approach gets called “okay on the privacy side” and just assumes you’re logged in to everything. In case you missed it, the subject matter here is browsing porn, a vast majority of people aren’t logging in at all with any service when they watch porn.
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JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 day agoThe way EU is planning on implementing it is seemingly rather okay on the privacy side.
Basic idea is that instead of sending your actual ID to every random shady website, which is fucking stupid and you should never ever do, you verify your ID once to a trusted processor, and the websites only receive a simple “Is adult: yes/no” answer connected to a randomised ID from them.
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
It doesn’t. The website would ask for an id check, you would generate it on the provider side and give the randomized ID to the site so it could go check it’s valid and let you through. Without an account, it would act like a temporary 2FA code.
sgh@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
That would basically give out my wanking schedule to the processor…
Pringles@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I’m glad to hear this. Some weeks ago I was pondering how to do age checks unanimously and this was pretty much the idea I came up with. It just makes a lot more sense because it does what you want without revealing anything private.
Twig@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Yeah, bit annoyed that Bandcamp is now asking for ID. Just going to have to abandon it when it becomes mandatory
icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Then there’s one failure point - the ‘trusted processor’. We need a trust free system.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 day ago
Exactly. I still don't understand why people still think it's a good idea.
Just no! No Id check. No "age verification". No "single company" or centralized bs. No. No. No.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 day ago
@JohnEdwa also you do understand that you are basically giving all the power to this random individual business that does the ID checks, right?
It's like the current banking system. No thanks.
That means your website can just be rejected by the ID partner and voila you got blocked from the internet. Maybe your website is discussing something that the government doesn't like?
Whatever it is, you basically sell your soul to this ID verification company. And they can reject you from any website in the future for any random reason. And like I said, websites can be rejected as wellr fom this system (it goes both ways).
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
If there is exactly one global service that does all the checks for every single internet user, which every single website uses, and the information going through them is always known, then sure, they could certainly block stuff.
But it’s quite clear by now “we aren’t going to implement age verification on the internet” isn’t going to happen, that verification is going to be implemented eventually, and in the rather near future, and places like the UK and many US states are extremely unlike to roll back the already implemented solutions.
So the question now is how it can be done with the least amount of invasion to privacy.
HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I guess the trusted processor would be the state authority that already has all your data.
That said, I think it’s a solution looking for a problem. IDK if 14 year olds jack off to Pornhub, I rather care about 54 year olds being swindled by Meta to destroy our democracy. What did we do after Cambridge Analytica?
icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Do you trust your gumint to anonymize data to third parties? Especially if they’re the ones buying elections?
HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
US style open corruption is illegal in the UK and the EU isn’t it?
That said I don’t trust them, I’m just saying if we want to rail against the thing, we should know exactly what the thing is.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
How would you propose I prove to you at a reasonable certainty that I am an adult, without showing you my ID, or showing it to someone else you trust to tell the truth?
And also somehow prove that the ID I gave was not fake without the government that issued it telling you that it’s genuine?
Well, I actually could do it because I’m old enough that most of my accounts are already over 18 years old, but I don’t think requiring every new Pornhub user to wait 18 years is a reasonable solution.
icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Maybe just practise basic parenting?