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kboy101222@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

So my Linux loving friend had their Debian installation nuke itself the other day. They went to boot it up and it just vanished. Completely gone. For zero discernable reason. It worked the night before without issue, it worked for months before that without issue, only to boot up and have everything missing.

All this is to say that using non Microsoft operating systems doesn’t magically make everything better. Everything in computing has issues and there’s no such thing as the perfect system.

Plus, even if Windows was perfect and fully FOSS, you and I both know you and all the other unix people would still hate it. It’s been the same circle jerk since the day unix existed.

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Kethal@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How much did your friend pay for Debian?

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ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Anecdote about a magical disappearing operating system? And it is somehow the fault of the OS and not the MUCH more likely culprits, user error and hardware failure? Conflating UNIX and Linux as if they are the same thing? Your story sounds like naive exaggeration based on ignorance and hyperbole.

But you’re right, there are plenty of reasons to hate Microsoft that have nothing to do with open vs. closed source philosophies. However, saying that the foundational principles of open source software development are more sound than closed source development in general and the particular way Microsoft has chosen to develop is not the same at all as your “perfect system” straw-man argument.

By the way, UNIX was created in 1969, Windows was initially released in 1983 (but didn’t really take off with Win3.1 in 1992), and Linux began in 1991. So your final statement while technically true, I suppose, is kind of absurd.

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- c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Your story sounds like naive exaggeration based on ignorance and hyperbole
  
  You mean kinda like how every “Windows bad!” Story is just a PEBCAK error? Lol
  
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pyt0xic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As in there is no boot entry? Or the drive was empty? There about 5 different possible causes for that that I can think of, all of which are user errors or hardware failures (or windows updates wiping boot entries xD).

Regardless, I get what you are saying, I wouldn’t recommend using Linux for 98% of people. The exception being when what you need to do is either not supported or is an absolute nightmare on Windows.

I chose to use Linux before I needed it, purely because windows always felt unintuitive, sluggish and irrationally complicated for me. Nowadays I cannot do what I need to do (for work and personal projects) on Windows or do not have the time to get it working. I maintain several Linux and Windows servers, on top of writing the software that’s running on them. I simply do not have the time to deal with a lack of documentation and the weird workarounds needed to do what I need to do on Windows.

When it comes to things like scientific computing, ML, databases and anything “backend” or low level, most of the software doesn’t support Windows and the OS level API’s are confusing as all hell.

Windows is better for the average “desktop user”, but it falls short as soon as you need to do things the average user never does.

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