Comment on Does anyone else notice an up tick in hostility on Lemmy lately?

• Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Toxic positivity is how you get the worse shit. If you can’t call someone else a fucker and move on then there’s too much protection for the truly deranged.

  There’s a large gap between being rude and being Hitler but many places online seem to forget this and treat all forms of negativity as equally extreme and it just results in the worse psychopaths who understand how to mask to have the loudest platform.

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• 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Nice to see another person who understands this. They want their social media experience to not make them feel anything negative, and loves their bubble where everyone agrees with them.

  When someone writes something they dont agree with, they go into keyboard warrior mode and either tries to put the person down with downvoting and insults, or mod reporting, which is similar to running to dad and crying about someone being bad.

  Its like people refuse to grow up today. Argue for your opinion, stop censoring and pushing down opinions you dont agree with.

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Exactly.

    Being exposed to people that believe differently than you challenges your own beliefs, and theirs.

    When women started opening about the bullshit they dealt with, a lot of people listened. Some didn’t, but a lot of people did. Some men said “hey, you know, now that you mention it, there’s some kind of fucked up shit about being a guy, too”.

    Anyone that had ever engaged with any real feminist theory or any facet of gender studies said: you’re absolutely right. Everyone else completely drowned them out.

    The internet around that time largely had the response of “shut up, the women are talking”. Not all of it, not everyone, but it was very common.

    Some men kept patiently listening, others stopped listening and started talking, others stopped listening, got angry, and started yelling. Some were never listening at all.

    Now we have hordes of young misogynistic racist shitheels who may have been receptive to other points of view once but are now so firmly entrenched in their shiftiness it may never change. And they’ve found nice cozy places to whip their impotent rage into a society-destroying frenzy. It festered in critical mass, quietly, until it built up a level where it could burst open like a cyst.

    The lesson here has nothing to do with gender, but highlights the importance of LISTENING TO PEOPLE, and being exposed to their viewpoints while exposing them to yours. Even the most vocal, selfish, pigheaded, racist conservative has legitimate concerns driving some of their shittiness: fear of uncertainty over the future, economic uncertainty, poverty, lack of education, fear of death. None of these things validate the shittiness but they do explain and they’re the levers by which these views change.

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    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And I totally disagree with that narrative.

      Because in my experience I listened, but then was guilty of the crime of pre-rape. And then i stopped listening to feminists. Being male and doing anything male-coded was a crime to them.

      then 10 years later… many of those very same feminists are now preaching 1950s subordination to their husband and God and many are of them anti-trans advocates. Every feminist I went to grad school with became everything she claimed to hate in her 20s.

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      • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Sure, they may have decided men are evil but so what. We arent, obviously. Men are actually much nicer to eachother than women are.

        Let them talk, its a good warning signal who has air in their head and who has some brains.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    FWIW my entire life i’ve known people who do this shit IRL. MY college campus was rife with people like this.

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