If you want to debunk the actual claim rather than the person it comes from, we’re all ears.
Which claim? That his dog wears a shock collar? That he used it during a stream? Or that (granting the two previous claims) this stands as evidence that he abuses his dog?
I’m far more interested in why some people are so eager to litigate a political commentator’s relationship with his dog when the bulk of his commentary is pointed at western-backed genocidal apartheid states.
Because most people conscously or subconcously expect better treatment towards pets than other fellow humans. It’s like children. Unless you’re an Israeli or conservative looking at a brown child, nobody stans child abusers.
“Why are people eager to litigate this incident?”
nobody stans […] abusers
Yes, that’s the motivation i’m pointing to.
Well, the people stanning Hasan are likely just practicing basic, dumb tribalism. Tribalism is more powerful than ethics, otherwise so many wars and conflicts from history (and the modern day) wouldn’t have ever happened.
the bulk of his commentary is pointed at western-backed genocidal apartheid states.
He hates Israel because they’re western-backed, not because they’re a genocidal apartheid state. C.f. his views on Ukraine and Russia.
I’m far more interested in why some people are so eager to litigate a political commentator’s relationship with his dog
People can have room for more than one opinion at the same time.
People can have room for more than one opinion at the same time
Apparently not.
Are you… going to elaborate on that, or…?
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
They were doing that, super vigorously, up until about a day ago when it became pretty clear that Hasan was lying. Now, all of a sudden, the identity of the messenger is the only thing worth talking about (and also why you keep talking about this, bro, I think you’re taking streamer drama WAY too seriously…)
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
I haven’t spent a single comment debunking anything in this story.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
You’re welcome to, if you would like to. I would actually really like for someone from Hasan’s followers to try to explain why this post is not factually solid.
I wasn’t specifically talking about you. I just noticed that the initial narrative was dew claws and airtags, and then it was vibrating collars, and now it’s shifted over to 100% attacking the messenger and they’re not at all interested in talking about how it’s obviously an airtag collar and anyone who can’t see that is stupid.
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
To what end? Honestly - setting aside the forensic analysis you’ve compiled for a second - what’s the point of spending so much time on litigating the details of this interaction?
Anyone who watches this person regularly aren’t going to judge his character on the one clip - that’s probably why you feel so frustrated by their ambivalence. Let alone the spurious conclusions you’re so eager to draw from it.