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• anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Which claim? That his dog wears a shock collar? That he used it during a stream? Or that (granting the two previous claims) this stands as evidence that he abuses his dog?

  I’m far more interested in why some people are so eager to litigate a political commentator’s relationship with his dog when the bulk of his commentary is pointed at western-backed genocidal apartheid states.

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  • november@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the bulk of his commentary is pointed at western-backed genocidal apartheid states.

    He hates Israel because they’re western-backed, not because they’re a genocidal apartheid state. C.f. his views on Ukraine and Russia.

    I’m far more interested in why some people are so eager to litigate a political commentator’s relationship with his dog

    People can have room for more than one opinion at the same time.

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    • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People can have room for more than one opinion at the same time

      Apparently not.

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  • MotoAsh@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because most people conscously or subconcously expect better treatment towards pets than other fellow humans. It’s like children. Unless you’re an Israeli or conservative looking at a brown child, nobody stans child abusers.

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    • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Why are people eager to litigate this incident?”

      nobody stans […] abusers

      Yes, that’s the motivation i’m pointing to.

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• PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They were doing that, super vigorously, up until about a day ago when it became pretty clear that Hasan was lying. Now, all of a sudden, the identity of the messenger is the only thing worth talking about (and also why you keep talking about this, bro, I think you’re taking streamer drama WAY too seriously…)

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  • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I haven’t spent a single comment debunking anything in this story.

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    • PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re welcome to, if you would like to. I would actually really like for someone from Hasan’s followers to try to explain why this post is not factually solid.

      I wasn’t specifically talking about you. I just noticed that the initial narrative was dew claws and airtags, and then it was vibrating collars, and now it’s shifted over to 100% attacking the messenger and they’re not at all interested in talking about how it’s obviously an airtag collar and anyone who can’t see that is stupid.

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      • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I would actually really like for someone from Hasan’s followers to try to explain why this post is not factually solid

        To what end? Honestly - setting aside the forensic analysis you’ve compiled for a second - what’s the point of spending so much time on litigating the details of this interaction?

        Anyone who watches this person regularly aren’t going to judge his character on the one clip - that’s probably why you feel so frustrated by their ambivalence. Let alone the spurious conclusions you’re so eager to draw from it.

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