Which claim? That his dog wears a shock collar? That he used it during a stream? Or that (granting the two previous claims) this stands as evidence that he abuses his dog?
I’m far more interested in why some people are so eager to litigate a political commentator’s relationship with his dog when the bulk of his commentary is pointed at western-backed genocidal apartheid states.
Because most people conscously or subconcously expect better treatment towards pets than other fellow humans. It’s like children. Unless you’re an Israeli or conservative looking at a brown child, nobody stans child abusers.
They were doing that, super vigorously, up until about a day ago when it became pretty clear that Hasan was lying. Now, all of a sudden, the identity of the messenger is the only thing worth talking about (and also why you keep talking about this, bro, I think you’re taking streamer drama WAY too seriously…)
You’re welcome to, if you would like to. I would actually really like for someone from Hasan’s followers to try to explain why this post is not factually solid.
I wasn’t specifically talking about you. I just noticed that the initial narrative was dew claws and airtags, and then it was vibrating collars, and now it’s shifted over to 100% attacking the messenger and they’re not at all interested in talking about how it’s obviously an airtag collar and anyone who can’t see that is stupid.
november@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
If you want to debunk the actual claim rather than the person it comes from, we’re all ears.
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
Which claim? That his dog wears a shock collar? That he used it during a stream? Or that (granting the two previous claims) this stands as evidence that he abuses his dog?
I’m far more interested in why some people are so eager to litigate a political commentator’s relationship with his dog when the bulk of his commentary is pointed at western-backed genocidal apartheid states.
MotoAsh@piefed.social 8 hours ago
Because most people conscously or subconcously expect better treatment towards pets than other fellow humans. It’s like children. Unless you’re an Israeli or conservative looking at a brown child, nobody stans child abusers.
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
“Why are people eager to litigate this incident?”
Yes, that’s the motivation i’m pointing to.
november@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
He hates Israel because they’re western-backed, not because they’re a genocidal apartheid state. C.f. his views on Ukraine and Russia.
People can have room for more than one opinion at the same time.
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Apparently not.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 19 hours ago
They were doing that, super vigorously, up until about a day ago when it became pretty clear that Hasan was lying. Now, all of a sudden, the identity of the messenger is the only thing worth talking about (and also why you keep talking about this, bro, I think you’re taking streamer drama WAY too seriously…)
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
I haven’t spent a single comment debunking anything in this story.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 9 hours ago
You’re welcome to, if you would like to. I would actually really like for someone from Hasan’s followers to try to explain why this post is not factually solid.
I wasn’t specifically talking about you. I just noticed that the initial narrative was dew claws and airtags, and then it was vibrating collars, and now it’s shifted over to 100% attacking the messenger and they’re not at all interested in talking about how it’s obviously an airtag collar and anyone who can’t see that is stupid.