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DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world 1 day agoThis question is very sensical if you understand what the states I’m discussing are. House trained (less calm (instead of more controlled), less reproducing, less territorial and more) controlled means take that extra aggression from Kill and Conquer and instead of doing illegal things. Focus it into optimal Physical Ability.
Also I’m confused what you meant by misbehaving and I don’t understand why you said it’s not a common result of mania. I don’t believe I mentioned it was? And I didn’t say psychological illness was the cause for the primitive conditions or criminal behaviour? Also why is primitive and criminal interchangeable unless I’m reading that wrong?
klugerama@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I believe that the reason everyone is having an issue with your question - and your replies - is that you’re communicating poorly.
You seem to be inventing usages for words and terms that have well-established, widely understood meanings: “house trained” already means something unrelated to human behavior, but you seem to be using it in a way similar to “domesticated”. “Manic” is commonly associated with mental health conditions, so you being confused as to why that was mentioned doesn’t make sense when you were the one to mention mania:
Also:
I just can’t figure out what that is supposed to mean. Being civilized is less calm?
Regardless, to attempt to answer what I think you’re asking: these “protohuman traits” such as “Kill, Conquer, and Reproduce” were selected over millions of years of predatory competition. But once civilization became the dominant selection filter, survival was more contingent upon cooperation than domination and aggression.
Physiologically, our endocrine systems didn’t need to change, though - there’s been either not enough selection pressure or not enough time for there to be a noticeable difference in how we process various enzymes and hormones that we evolved to survive as hunter-gatherers. It simply hasn’t been necessary to our survival to “control” it.
Besides, it took millions of years and thousands of mutations across thousands of speciation events to develop that extremely complex system, and civilization has only been around for about 20,000 years, and - at most - two or three hominid species.
DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Shit sorry I realized I said the wrong one there seriously my apologies I meant More calm 😓 fixed it
And beyond that from housetrained. Yeah maybe it wasn’t the best word for typical people to recognize. Though from the perspective from Primal to Civilization it seems very very much like housetraining in animals.
Also when I mentioned mania there was specifically because people were instantly assuming mania in prior post. So I didn’t wish for them to conflate the two. So I instantly covered that base. I mean don’t you do that. Cover all bases?
And yeah cooperation can work in tandem. With these traits.
Like they should’ve been controlled into doing that very ability but this is why I asked if Men as the promotion motivator caused it to be needed to be lessened.
It’s surprising that people haven’t considered to try to control the enzymes and stuff like that because the benefits that I seem to get from the traits that are early humans would have or Proto humans would also have seemed very beneficial and very likeable. That’s why I’m curious why did people get rid of them or like why they left because it seems so desirable.