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Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Your question seems mostly nonsensical, we are not “house trained”, and what do you mean by “rather than controlled”?
Is your question based on biblical or another form of faith?
But in short regarding our social behavior, the principle of it is not very different from social behaviors of other animals like dogs or chimpanzees. We “behave” because we are social animals and it’s in our DNA to work for the benefit of the the group.
Obviously misbehavior is generally rooted in conflict of interests, which can naturally occur in all groups. They are absolutely not generally a result of mania.
Also no the question is based off how protohumans responded to different things. What I’m saying has scientific backing. I just don’t understand why we lost the primitive way instead of controlling it.
Such as taking the hard focus and power on Kill and Conquer using that for something else rather than Illegal things.
One ew the bible and two my faith is only based in science. (sorry good Christians)
This question is very sensical if you understand what the states I’m discussing are. House trained (less calm (instead of more controlled), less reproducing, less territorial and more) controlled means take that extra aggression from Kill and Conquer and instead of doing illegal things. Focus it into optimal Physical Ability.
Also I’m confused what you meant by misbehaving and I don’t understand why you said it’s not a common result of mania. I don’t believe I mentioned it was? And I didn’t say psychological illness was the cause for the primitive conditions or criminal behaviour? Also why is primitive and criminal interchangeable unless I’m reading that wrong?
I believe that the reason everyone is having an issue with your question - and your replies - is that you’re communicating poorly.
You seem to be inventing usages for words and terms that have well-established, widely understood meanings: “house trained” already means something unrelated to human behavior, but you seem to be using it in a way similar to “domesticated”. “Manic” is commonly associated with mental health conditions, so you being confused as to why that was mentioned doesn’t make sense when you were the one to mention mania:
Since when I experience protohuman traits such as Kill, Conquer and Reproduce. It doesn’t feel anything like what is explained or expected with Mania.
Also:
House trained (less calm (instead of more controlled)
I just can’t figure out what that is supposed to mean. Being civilized is less calm?
Regardless, to attempt to answer what I think you’re asking: these “protohuman traits” such as “Kill, Conquer, and Reproduce” were selected over millions of years of predatory competition. But once civilization became the dominant selection filter, survival was more contingent upon cooperation than domination and aggression.
Physiologically, our endocrine systems didn’t need to change, though - there’s been either not enough selection pressure or not enough time for there to be a noticeable difference in how we process various enzymes and hormones that we evolved to survive as hunter-gatherers. It simply hasn’t been necessary to our survival to “control” it.
Besides, it took millions of years and thousands of mutations across thousands of speciation events to develop that extremely complex system, and civilization has only been around for about 20,000 years, and - at most - two or three hominid species.
Shit sorry I realized I said the wrong one there seriously my apologies I meant More calm 😓 fixed it
And beyond that from housetrained. Yeah maybe it wasn’t the best word for typical people to recognize. Though from the perspective from Primal to Civilization it seems very very much like housetraining in animals.
Also when I mentioned mania there was specifically because people were instantly assuming mania in prior post. So I didn’t wish for them to conflate the two. So I instantly covered that base. I mean don’t you do that. Cover all bases?
And yeah cooperation can work in tandem. With these traits.
Like they should’ve been controlled into doing that very ability but this is why I asked if Men as the promotion motivator caused it to be needed to be lessened.
It’s surprising that people haven’t considered to try to control the enzymes and stuff like that because the benefits that I seem to get from the traits that are early humans would have or Proto humans would also have seemed very beneficial and very likeable. That’s why I’m curious why did people get rid of them or like why they left because it seems so desirable.
porcoesphino@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
I’d add “mania” to that list of terms that need defining. They seem to have a specific meaning that’s probably misaligned with most people reading the question:
lemmy.world/comment/19666332