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Comment on Not to get all religiony but why in the old testament God was all fire and brimstone and fatal consequences? But the new testament God is all about forgiveness and such??

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Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Dan McClellan is a textbook example of this. He is known to block people whom responds to his videos. which is bad faith.

I could point you to another video about the Yahweh pantheon by the same guy.

The Bible hasn’t been heavily edited. There isn’t much proof for this, notably, no original “unedited” documents. Yahweh was worshipped in a pantheon though, and the Bible records this. But it’s the writings of a monotheistic sect.

Numbers 25:1–3:

While Israel lived in Shittim, the people began to whore with the daughters of Moab. These invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods. So Israel yoked himself to Baal of Peor. And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel.

Judges 2:11-13 ESV [11] And the people of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the Lord and served the Baals. [12] And they abandoned the Lord, the God of their fathers, who had brought them out of the land of Egypt. They went after other gods, from among the gods of the peoples who were around them, and bowed down to them. And they provoked the Lord to anger. [13] They abandoned the Lord and served the Baals and the Ashtaroth.

Judges 3:5-7 ESV [5] So the people of Israel lived among the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. [6] And their daughters they took to themselves for wives, and their own daughters they gave to their sons, and they served their gods. [7] And the people of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the Lord. They forgot the Lord their God and served the Baals and the Asheroth.

Judges 10:6 ESV [6] The people of Israel again did what was evil in the sight of the Lord and served the Baals and the Ashtaroth, the gods of Syria, the gods of Sidon, the gods of Moab, the gods of the Ammonites, and the gods of the Philistines. And they forsook the Lord and did not serve him.

The archaeology is basically just backing it up that there were instances of Yahweh being worshipped alongside other gods.

So the Bible hasn’t been edited- it documents this happening.

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Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Uhhh the dead Sea scrolls showed exactly how much the Bible had been edited over there years. The entire book today is edit upon edit upon edit

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- Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  The dead sea scrolls are the same as the Bible we have today
  
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  - Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    There are significant differences as I understand it
    
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    Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Like what?
    
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m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Dan McClellan is a textbook example of this. He is known to block people whom responds to his videos. which is bad faith.

I know he blocks people if he decides they are not engaging productively. Like in the video you linked InspiringPhilosphy says that: when Jesus knew the doubters wondered “who can forgive sins but God”… InspiringPhilosphy insists that they were talking about God the father, but trinitarian belief didn’t exist at the time of the composition of the gospel of Mark right? I suspect Dan lost patience with the retrojection of Trinitarianism.

The Bible hasn’t been heavily edited. There isn’t much proof for this, notably, no original “unedited” documents.

These are the first three edits that come to mind: Pericope of the women caught in adultery is absent from all early manuscripts if the gospel of John. Johannine comma being absent from all Greek manuscripts (except for the forgery from like 1000 years later), short ending of Mark. Also the pseudepigraphal letters of Paul, are editing in a sense.

Yahweh was worshipped in a pantheon though, and the Bible records this. But it’s the writings of a monotheistic sect.

What is monotheism? Is it compatible with belief in the power of rival gods like in 2 Kings 3:27?

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- Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That recording in Mark is Jesus teaching Trinitarian belief.
  
  I also said “heavily” edited. A story here in there added in isn’t heavy editing. The Johannine Comma existed for a period of time but isn’t in modern bibles except maybe a footnote. Even the woman caught in adultery comes with a disclaimer, as well as the ending in Mark.
  
  2 Kings 3:27
  
  Then he took his oldest son who was to reign in his place and offered him for a burnt offering on the wall. And there came great wrath against Israel. And they withdrew from him and returned to their own land.
  
  What rival god?
  
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  - m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The rival god that the son was sacrificed to.
    
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    Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    What do you mean “it wasn’t invented”?
    
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