Comment on Microsoft doing shady Microsoft stuff again

• PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Citation: It is known

  How many of them? How do you know?

  “Many. It is known.”

  I also like how you put “users” in quotes for some reason. Anyway, good talk.

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  • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    To be fair, the claim that every single user deliberately installed chrome has the same citation lol

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    • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Maybe so. But Chrome got there some way, their computer didn’t come with it. 100% of the computers in that sample came with Edge configured as the browser and nothing else installed, and 81.95% of them are currently accessing the internet using something else. That to me indicates some kind of decisive action to use something else, on somebody’s part, and also that Microsoft’s years-long endeavor to correct the “problem” by just continuing to ask like a drunk man at the bar in the hopes that the answer will change is not a winner for most people who use computers at this point.

      Probably it’s only as low as 81.95% because they do stuff like this. Obviously those people do still exist in a big contingent. My feeling is though that it’s no longer 1998 and there’s no longer this supermajority of AOL users out there who are confused by the very concept of a browser. Those people are in old folks’ homes now, their kids who grew up programming are the middle-aged people of today who aren’t hip to apps and TikTok, but they do understand about browsers. That’s just my feeling and a narrative I produced out of my ass, sure, but it does seem to match the data.

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      • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Sure, but I’d wager there’s a huge portion of chrome users who got there through the same tactic that Microsoft is deploying here - if you to go the world’s most popular search engine on a non-Chrome browser, it tells you that you should be running Chrome and provides a download link

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    • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Y’all have set up this false dichotomy in which you’ve ignored the real majority of chrome installs on windows: children, grandchildren, and neighbors who just want to move on with their life. So they install “the one that looks like a beach ball” and they install a bunch of risky extensions that’ll make reading and printing the internet easier.

      Source: I used to work in computer repair and technological literacy. But, mostly my own ass.

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      • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Hey now, I wasn’t ignoring anyone. The truth is somewhere between “all installs were deliberate” and “most installs were accidental”

        Several coworkers user Edge because the computer said to use Edge and a computer wouldn’t lie.

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      • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        https://youtu.be/7nqcL0mjMjw?

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