Comment on Ethical alternatives to Spotify

• 30p87@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Contact them, ask for ways to donate.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You realize that bands have by their choice a contract with a label which in turn provides services to them (bands without a label don’t count since they would sell their music themselves)? If the band sells their music directly is one thing, but what you’re suggesting is simply wrong. Also donations are not meant as a mean of purchasing stuff. 🤷‍♂️

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes, it is well known that Band merely contract out the business of distribution and they are not being exploited by this arrangement. Lars Ulrich told me that.

      However, I still think all intellectual property should be abolished and all art should be paid in full before production starts and I will pirate everything until then. I may send donations with my own terms to certain artists as I see fit, I do agree this is not “purchasing” I do not “purchase” art, I take it and do not recognize any need or right for compensation. But I do like giving them money regardless, I sent 1500$USD last year to various small artists I like to motive them, make of that what you will.

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      • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Focusing on one part of your response that really runs me the wrong way, you believe artists don’t need to be compensated for their work?

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      • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        “I think that something has to be cheaper or have a different business model” doesn’t give me rights to steal it.

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• ober@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Personally I do this by buying merch. If I buy a shirt from a band than not only do I get a cool shirt but the band also gets paid more in that single transaction than if I listened to their music 5000 times on spotify.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Sure, but that doesn’t give you rights to pirate their music, does it? There is also the problem who gets paid what when you buy their merch.

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    • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Ask any artist: they make most of their money from merch and ticket sales (depending on venue).

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      • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I assume that depends on the contract they have with their label, but usually it’s a way for them to earn more.

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    • ober@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m not really worried about whether a label or corporation deems me to have the “right” to listen to their music. The only thing I’m concerned with outside of consuming the art is the artist who made it. I highly doubt any artist would genuinely care if someone pirated their music but still payed them through other means (like buying merch, tickets, etc).

      I think the argument of who gets paid what when you buy merch is irrelevant when you consider the alternative being the artist gets virtually nothing. I would have to listen to an artist 200 times for them to maybe get a singular dollar from spotify. If whoever is handling their merch store is giving them less than that for each sale of a shirt then it’s the artists fault at that point for still working with them.

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      • Powderhorn@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I highly doubt any artist would genuinely care if someone pirated their music

        That’s literally what happened with Napster. Metallica were rather pissed, and Napster shut down, leading the the fun P2P days of Whac-a-Mole.

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