Comment on Ethical alternatives to Spotify

• msage@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stealing means change of ownership.

  You are not stealing music.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Call it whatever you want, you don’t have rights to get it unless its through a legal way.

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    • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It is legal to download music from P2P networks where I live. Whether it’s ethical is another argument, but it really only has to be MORE ethical than using Spotify.

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    • Powderhorn@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      OK, so fix the tax code to the extent that corporations are actually the main funder of the government (since they’re the only constituents with any power) and pay me a living wage, and I’ll … oh, no, wait. The vast majority of my purchase doesn’t go to the artist?

      “Rights” are for the rich.

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• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not theft obviously, information can be duplicated infinitely at no cost.
  Also I don’t think you understand, I want it to actively stop existing.
  I pirate stuff, that I’m not even going to watch or listen to out of principle.
  I want intellectual property abolished AND made illegal, not merely “change the business model” what kind of weak sauce is that, I want it flattened by bulldozers and erased from history books, it’s perpetrators treated as criminals.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not theft obviously, information can be duplicated infinitely at no cost.

    Yes it is cheaply duplicated, but you have no rights to duplicate it when this is not allowed. Do you think artists are not entitled to a wage though? Should the live by the mercy of fans?

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Please understand, I am saying the Intellectual Property regime should be ABOLISHED, I don’t recognizes ANYONE’s right to limit the propagation of human expression in any form. I find this heinous enclosure of culture absolutely intolerable, I think it corrupts art, creates monetary incentive to create art which are always impure and a defilement of the sanctity of art.

      I’m not proposing an alternative, I’m not giving you any kind of solution either.

      Artists are not “entitled to wages”, the artists should be paid for in advance, in fact all humans should have the essentials of life provided at no cost. I find it obscene that distributors finance and profit art like they do. The financialization of art has been its downfall. This is why our intellectual world is filled with garish slop, pumped full of “integrated artvertising”.

      I’m sorry this demolishes the “business model of art” in this corrupt economic system.

      But I want you to you, I hate it, I HATE IT ALL !!!

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