perkcoffee.co/sg/countries-consume-coffee/
The UK appears to be nowhere near the top of countries on per-capita coffee consumption, at less than a third Finland’s rate.
However, it does appear to be very high on prevalence of cocaine consumption:
Comment on Under-16s to be banned from buying high-caffeine energy drinks including Monster
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 4 days agoThey’re not stupid, but their brains aren’t fully developed yet. A huge problem is the fact that the part of the brain that takes into consideration possible consequences for any action one decides to take is one of the last things to fully develop, and that doesn’t happen until roughly age 25.
tal@lemmy.today 4 days ago
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 days ago
We rather famously drink tea.
tal@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Hmm. That’s a good point. I wonder if there’s trouble lurking there.
The government proposals will make it illegal to sell high-caffeine energy drinks containing more than 150mg of caffeine per litre to anyone under 16 in England.
Aight, so that’s their red line.
www.healthline.com/…/how-much-caffeine-in-coffee
A 12-ounce (oz) cup of brewed coffee may contain 113 to 247 milligrams (mg)Trusted Source of caffeine, whereas a smaller 8-ounce cup can contain about 95 to 200 mg.
Hmm. A liter is 2.8 times larger than a 12 fluid ounce cup, so that’d be 318 mg/L to 696 mg/L.
Highlandcow@feddit.uk 4 days ago
Fully developed enough no, but developed enough to handle a legal drug such as caffeine and to look at the back of a bottle and make a decision on what they do not want to put into there bodies, the stupidity of select individual isn’t a valid justification of the curtailing of freedom
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 4 days ago
So let’s sell cigarettes to kids, too. They’re a legal drug, right?
Look, I’m no expert, and I’m not saying caffeine is as bad as cigarettes, but I’m sure neither of us has a full understanding of the brain, or caffeine’s effects upon it. How about admitting you might not know enough to make an informed decision, and let those who do know more work it out?
Highlandcow@feddit.uk 4 days ago
Ok fair, I can admit looking at your comment my argument was flawed, I still think though that people of all ages should be able drink whatever caffeine based drink they want as long as it isn’t strong enough to kill you which energy drinks arnt, most countries do not have this restriction to my knowledge and I think this use of “public health” and the idea we need to curtail people’s freedoms to save NHS money is wrong and that there are more important mismanagement of government funds that needs to be looked at
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 3 days ago
It’s not unimportant:
- Teenager dies in classroom of caffeine overdose after downing latte, energy drink and Mountain Dew
- Lethal Lemonade: Energy Drinks Aimed at Young People Linked to Deaths, Cardiac Risks, Lawsuits Allege
- This article talks about even relatively young mature adults dying both in the main story as we as in links to some others further down the article.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 days ago
A huge problem is the fact that the part of the brain that takes into consideration possible consequences for any action one decides to take is one of the last things to fully develop, and that doesn't happen until roughly age 25.
Deff missed this memo.
Although it do get better with age, I guess.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Peak Reddit/Lemmy
The infantilism is so high. Teenagers just can’t be trusted with a dangerous drug like caffeine!
God you people suck. Annoying everyone into fascism.
Highlandcow@feddit.uk 4 days ago
Kind of agree, I dont care if they’re brain is fully developed or not, caffeine is a legal drug and a teens brain is developed enough to make a decision like this
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 4 days ago
You’re obviously affected by this personally, and thus biased. You’re blatantly ignoring the fact that few teens have a full understanding of how the human brain works, the chemical interactions involved, or the long-term effects possibly involved.
Cigarettes were once actually endorsed by doctors, but we all know better now. I’m not saying this is anywhere near that bad, but that’s because I’m admittedly not anywhere near an expert on this - I know the limitations of my knowledge, and when to defer to someone with more expertise. I would suggest you find the humility to do the same.
Highlandcow@feddit.uk 4 days ago
“your obviously affected by this” where is your evidence for that? I don’t drink caffeine, I don’t like coffee and I don’t really like tea too much either and ive only have had an energy drink like once, my bias is that I care about personal freedom
Also are you sure teens don’t care about how energy drinks affect there brain and dont do research into this stuff? And if so isn’t this an issue of education, shouldn’t we just make PSAs and include learning about this into personal health development style classes in schools, why is the immediate reaction to jump to curtailing teenagers freedoms and assume they are too stupid to understand, didn’t we just give 16 year olds the right to vote, and these kids can already drink alcohol from a young age with parental permission
But your right in that it’s fair that we are always learning about how drugs such as nicotine in cigarettes affect us and that things change and we never have the full facts, but this energy drink restriction doesn’t seem to be a restriction in most other countries and the main justification seems to be reducing NHS waiting times, I don’t think the idea of reducing freedom is the answer to saving the NHS the NHS needs much more complex reform to stay as amazing as it can be