Comment on I genuinely can't wait for Mobile Linux to become a thing

ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• renzev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn’t just a good deed, it’s necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.

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  • null@lemmy.nullspace.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Define, “sucks”

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    • Yaky@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The complaints I see about custom OS the most:

      • Bank or payment apps don’t work due to Play Integrity API (blame Google)
      • Some other Google apps don’t work correctly (well… duh)
      • Obscure functionality that is usually overlooked or intentionally ignored, but is a complete dealbreaker for that user.

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      • Ziglin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        My banking app works on GrapheneOS. It didn’t even need any of the compatibility settings to be turned. My experience has been smoother than the Android shipped with the device. I barely use Google apps apart from yt and haven’t found any obscure issues yet. Is GrapheneOS just really good compared to others or did I get lucky with my bank and the features I use?

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      • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        i never experienced point 2 or 3 in all my years of using them.

        the problem for me is usually integrity api.

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    By the way, do you know of any other OS except for GrafinoS that does not bundle any MicroG or other tether to Google? I like /e/os, but MicroG bothers me. Can it be uninstalled?

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    • lucario_owo@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m not sure but afaik CalyxOS and LMODroid does that.

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• Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Just one problem. Both are still dependent on Google and Android-based. How sustainable is that security model?

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  • thejoker954@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Right! just look how locked down android has become since the early/mid 2000’s.

    You don’t even have full control of your sd card anymore (if you’re lucky enough to actually have a phone with an sd slot.)

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• Noctambulist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  GrapheneOS has been working flawlessly for me for years. Highly recommend!

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• somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Check out crDroid. I do not know how it’s like to daily drive it, but afaik it’s highly customizable.

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• lucario_owo@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yep, they put in a lot of effort into the security and open source stuff, but at least on Graphene, the bundled apps are severely outdated aosp apps, they don’t even support material you, meanwhile current aosp apps do support it, as can be seen on Lineage. The calculator app looks straight from Android 5 or probably earlier.

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  • 8dotpi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I honestly couldn’t care less about how the calculator app looks, and I’m sure you could find a more “modern” one on fdroid. The real problems are things like google pay not working (not a deal breaker imo, but would be nice to have)

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  • Amir@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Lineage has its own forks of most apps

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    • lucario_owo@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Most, but there are exceptions, mainly the messages app, calculator, phone app, and keyboard that I know for sure.

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