Comment on Sikh 'barred from Birmingham jury service' for religious sword

BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• Chariotwheel@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  I don't think so. Simply, because there is an actual exception for this:

  The MoJ said members of the Sikh community wishing to enter a court building could bring in a Kirpan which was not more than six inches long (15cm) and with a blade no more than five inches (12cm) in length - which Mr Singh said his was.

  I think the security guard made a mistake there.

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  • people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Do you think Sikhs across the world all walk around with “symbolic” blades just because they’re a sign of their religion? These people only do stuff like this for clout, nothing else.

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    • Chariotwheel@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Do you think Sikhs across the world all walk around with “symbolic” blades just because they’re a sign of their religion?

      Yes, I do.

      But even if it was for clout, it wouldn't change anything about it being allowed.

      You can say that you don't think religions should have excemptions, but that's another topic. As of this incident the excemption exists and he should be able to carry a blade according to the restrictions in there.

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      • people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yes, I do.

        Then you’re stupid.

        But even if it was for clout, it wouldn’t change anything about it being allowed.

        You can say that you don’t think religions should have excemptions, but that’s another topic. As of this incident the excemption exists and he should be able to carry a blade according to the restrictions in there.

        The job of every guard is to look out for threats. If the guard feels it is in the interest of everyone’s safety that a participant removes a literal weapon from their person before entering a place of importance, it is completely reasonable on his behalf. That the participant is feeling sentimental about it is not the guard’s fault and neither should it be.

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    • amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Yeah, of course what the fuck?

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    • HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I think where the symbolic blade has been specifically legislated into UK law, yes UK law should pertain.

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    • Zellith@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      A kirpan is a mandatory Sikh article of faith. It is carried by Amritdhari (initiated) Sikhs at all times. The word “kirpan” comes from two Punjabi words: 'Kirpa' means an act of kindness, a favor; and 'Aan' means honor and self- respect. • A kirpan resembles a knife or sword.

      Took about 10 seconds to google.

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      • people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yes indeed, random Google text is more reliable than someone who literally lives in Punjab 🤦‍♂️

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• Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Remove the chowder from your head and actually read the article…

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