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• Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up

  Talking with parents takes far, far, far longer than logging something on your phone or a tablet. How is this idea not just a significantly worse time-sink?

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  • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If they are panicking while the child is being picked up and dropped off that kind of environment might not be for them. Also the idea that you think that you interacting with the care giver/parent is a time sink is the reason why I think its dystopian, I would want them to be in full care giver mode at all times and not have to switch to logging corp slave for the few min an hour. I am sure that dumb shit is taxing on them and its just a thing for parents that will require it (god forbid those same parents actually spend any time with those people or look for other things in their childs environment that could help that need this kind of logging. ).

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    • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      is the reason why I think its dystopian

      Yeah, I hate to break this to you, but we are living through a dystopia. Nobody can afford childcare and all childcare is understaffed

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• plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  … there’s limits to how many children can be watched by a single caretaker, it’s like 7 in most jurisdictions.

  You clearly have no experience with this, so why are speaking up?

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  • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not even close to right, fed says it can be 10:1 no more then 16:1 sooo that is still minutes out of each hour. And that is if everything is running smooth and children are anything but smooth. And I am speaking up because again I think its dystopian, I would rather the person in charge of my child TALK TO ME, and we can learn what to expect and want from the relationship then them sitting on phones or tablets logging every last thing my child did. And I must point out that your math is bad, 7x5 isnt 30. If you need precision in your childcare you should strive for it in yourself.

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    • antler@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What federal limit are you referencing? Federally funded Early Head Start classes serving students under 36 months old must have two teachers with no more than 8 children (4:1 ratio). CFR 1302.21(b)(2). Kids in diapers will probably be under 36 months.

      Many states have their own requirements.

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      • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        that is the classes one, these are caregivers not teachers. I was referring to childcare.gov/…/supervision-ratios-and-group-size…

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    • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So you want the caretaker to spend 5-10 minutes chatting to you instead of spending a few seconds logging?

      Who’s watching the other kids while the caretaker has all their attention on you during pickup?

      Your suggestion takes more time and leaves less time to spend are taking other kids.

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• ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  30 times 5 seconds is 2.5 minutes, and that’s for a stupendously overworked person. Like “CPS call” levels of understaffing at what would be an unlicensed facility.
  A more realistic number is under a minute per hour.

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  • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    that is if everything is going to plan and you just have to press the childs button and action, but you also have to get the device at the time to so you should at least add in 5 seconds for that. But again, children are not like this, so the care giver once per hour I am sure is having to type out some dumb thing this human just did, So I would say that 5 min to 10 min is spent on logging and tending the human that fell or freaked out.

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    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Going based on my kids daycare, it’s really not a problem. You’re talking 30:1 kids to caregivers, and 8:1 is over the legal limit.

      Like, I’ve hung out in the daycare. I’ve talked to the caregivers. It’s not nearly the way you seem to think. They like it because it’s easier than the documentation they would be keeping for their own purposes.
      I’m typing this having just gotten back from dropping the kids off with them and hanging out chatting for a bit.

      If the kid fell and bumped his head, I’m sure they are spending about five minutes logging and tending to them. Probably 20 seconds typing after 3 or 4 minutes putting an ice pack on it, giving them a hug and letting them sit on their lap.

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      • HorreC@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        so wait you are saying they do have time to chat, which in a lot of these comments they state they dont have time for this. I think the logging of major things would be fine, but bathroom breaks and nap time hell all the other small things they have to log is dumb, and not really helpful if you are trying to get to the source of an issue (like bathroom incidences or they seem to be overly tired). Also I was never talking 30:1, if you look we showed its 10:1 legally.

        Also how long did it take you to write that, were you on a phone or tablet? I know a lot of the people I know type really slow on a table due to how bad the keyboard is (this is not talking about a docked one). So pressing a few buttons then typing something out is like 2 to 5 min. I am just saying in the world where they dont have the time to talk to you (which I asked around and isnt the case, and you seem to say the same) they could be spending that time with the kids and then interact with me at the end/start of the day.

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