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The problem isn’t with the understanding of how vaccines work, the reason idiots don’t want vaccines is they dont trust what you’re telling them is the case.

In their mind, these soldiers you’re training are better off being naturally fit and learning how to fight intuitively.

And this “training” you’re giving your soldiers, is actually just an Al-Qaeda’s communist lgbtqia+/? agenda being pushed by Joe Biden and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (in their mind).

Here’s the thing: you can’t use logic to reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

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petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah.

I think it’s important to give explanations like Mystik’s loudly and often, and maybe a bit quipier if it’s too long, because constant exposure to talk radio and other conservative propaganda is partly why they fell into this trap in the first place.

But if they’re not listening, you just gotta call them stupid weirdos and make them feel uncomfortable in public. Make their friends laugh at them, make it seem like your side is having more fun. The fear of being excluded will eventually pull them over, willingly or not.

Unless it doesn’t. In which case, we’re talking about a breakdown of the social order that is… I don’t even know, man. That might be beyond fixing.

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- InputZero@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  But if they’re not listening, you just gotta call them stupid weirdos and make them feel uncomfortable in public. Make their friends laugh at them, make it seem like your side is having more fun. The fear of being excluded will eventually pull them over, willingly or not.
  
  I’m glad that you’re engaging with the topic, but that suggestion won’t help. Publicly embarrassing someone who is holding onto an emotional belief like ‘I can never trust the companies that make vaccines.’ just pushes them to double down. Vaccine hesitancy and how to address it is a well studied topic and any form of attack just pushes the person into defense mode.
  
  The best solution is actually compassion from those the vaccine hesitant most love and trust. Vaccine hesitancy begins with a lack of trust in the medical profession. Which may or may not be well founded, the medical community has some bad people in it.
  
  Regardless, saying to your loved one “Okay you don’t trust the scientists, but you do trust me, and I trust the science on this one.” Is much more effective than arguing or publicly embarrassing someone.
  
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  - petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    just pushes them to double down.
    
    It pushes them out of communities. You’re not really understanding the strategy here. The point is not to make them believe, it is to silence their ideas with a bit of social conformity. This is the same reason you kick nazis out of your bar before they start bringing their friends.
    
    If you make life difficult for people with obscenely bad ideas, you encourage them to either stop or at least be quiet about it. That quiet inhibits spread. It creates new taboos that people are afraid to cross.
    
    Regardless, saying to your loved one "Okay you don’t trust the scientists, but you do trust me, […]
    
    Their loved ones are welcome to do this. They should, actually. I can’t really help them do that, though.
    
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    I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The flaw in your reasoning is that it is outdated by almost 2 decades. Being pushed out of their community doesn’t mean as much when they can just go online and find a new community that tells them all their opinions are right and everyone else is a sheep.
    
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