Filesharing is very different from profiting off of your mass scale piracy.
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mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Lemmy really hates piracy… in this specific context.
And a lot of the extreme and extremist content going into these things is just Twitter. People post all kinds of shit from all kinds of places. At what point is this like clutching pearls over what the Internet Archive has saved? They’re trying to grab anything you could see.
It’s not some hacking and exfiltration campaign. Meta’s just bad at spidering. How do you go breadth-first across the entire internet and still DDoS any particular site? You don’t decide to check every DeviantArt account, at the same time, you dolts.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 days ago
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Correct - only the filesharing is against the law. Training is transformative use.
You can’t cram a billion images into one gigabyte. They’d be one byte each. What these models do is very different from the bootlegging you’re trying to make it sound like.
pticrix@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
“Lemmy really hates it when a corporation murders people, yet they never say anything about individuals who kill in legitimate defense of themselves”
That’s pretty much how you sound, buddy.
If the AI created was really useful and made open to all freely, a different song would be sung, you know.
Right now, it is simply as useful as putting gas on a fire to extinguish it.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Arguments are easy when you make shit up.
pticrix@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Thinking it’s only about the LLMs is pretty reductive, though I guess it makes for an easily digestible statement.
We don’t ask people to be mad about the tool, it’s about how we’re being told The Tool is the most important human endeavor, while the mass usage of The Tool has yet to prove more worthwhile than having a chat with a friend, all the while we create a lot of ethical, ecological and economical debt in order to keep evolving The Tool, and funneling most of the products of that debt into the hands of people who already have more than enough.
So The Tool as of yet has had way more negative direct and side effects, both by its use and its development, than any projected positive outcomes that comes out of the mass deployment and usage of The Tool.
This is what - to me, one of the Luddite who would rather stop this cancer from growing - we are mad about, and why, given the scale of things at this moment and what is projected, think people should be more in the know of the revolting realities that are not said in all those nice press releases and consumer expos.
who@feddit.org 3 days ago
Specifically, Lemmy hates it when corporations profit by using people’s work without permission or payment.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Seeking distinctions is pretense. They’re just shuffling cards.
You can ask about models made from public-domain data, and most critics will not budge an inch. Mentioning copyright is working backwards from a gut feeling. The ones who say, sure, okay, it’d be different if– - maybe they have a consistent rationale. But even some of them haven’t examined how they’d feel about this technology, if all their complaints were addressed.