But other than call for aid to the innocent i can’t feel right about supporting either side. What can stop this?
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Sivaru@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Because you are human. Aren’t you? Stand with what is right.
Snorf@reddthat.com 2 years ago
alvvayson@lemmy.world 2 years ago
You don’t need to support either side. I don’t.
You just need to not be hypocritical and value all human lives and human rights equally. You need to stop supporting apartheid perpetuated by Israel.
The Palestinians don’t really need support from the West. They just need to not be blockaded and terrorized by Israel. And their land and water not stolen. All they need is equal protection under international law.
The Arab and Muslim countries and humanitarian organizations are more than willing and able to support them. Your support is not needed.
In the American context, such a stance will be characterized as being anti-semitic and supporting Hamas. But it isn’t. It’s just being consistent and impartial.
Many Israelis actually also have a similar stance. And they get accused of being traitors.
livus@kbin.social 2 years ago
Sivaru@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Just knowing what’s right and what’s wrong, and your desire to help is more than enough, just be the voice of the victim.
PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 2 years ago
What’s right, then? For fuck’s sake, these people have been hitting each other over the head forever and show no inclination to reason their way to peace. Like two babies crying over the same nappy, they won’t be content until one has all and the other has none.
rentar42@kbin.social 2 years ago
What is right is to keep in mind that "those people" that keep the war running are not all the people that live in that area. I suspect the majority of the population don't actively wish for a full-out war (even though there might be some or even many that support the underlying goal).
Wars are often (always? maybe, I'm not a historian to be able to judge that) started and perpetuated by small powerful (and/or ruthless) groups within the areas/nations.
Yes, this particular conflict is very old and very, very messy and I can't even imagine an answer to what the least bad resolution of it would be. But keep in mind that most people that suffer under it probably don't want it.
LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Jesus Christ. Israelies are overwhelmingly in support of an invasion. Stop just making up shit that sounds wholesome. vox.com/…/israeli-support-for-the-gaza-war-is-bas…
rentar42@kbin.social 2 years ago
I admit that this is a much higher number than I expected.
But there's nuance there. First, look at the date. This is about a poll in July 2014, this is very explicitly NOT about the latest, massive push by Israel.
Second, there's fluctuation in the support based on what exactly is going on (and of course based on what Hamas has done recently).
Third, the poll is only among Jewish Isrealis (which are the majority, but you're still missing about a quarter of all Isrealis in this).
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 years ago
This is exactly what I also don’t understand. I mean, I get some people don’t have the means to move elsewhere, and I sympathize with them a lot. But I would think any reasonable person would GTFO of that entire area as fast as possible. Who gives a fuck about land when it comes to you and your family’s life and we’ll being?
Sivaru@lemmy.world 2 years ago
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Yeah, and valuing land because “it’s holy” more than human life is idiotic. Yes, someone forcing them out is wrong, but the situation there is too far gone to remedy. Case and point, even in the US, if someone points a gun at you and tell you to give them your wallet, then give them your wallet. It’s wrong of them to do that - nobody is debating it. But get out of it with your life and don’t hang out in dark alleyways.
Sivaru@lemmy.world 2 years ago
What’s right? You need to fined out yourself . if you interested do your research. go back to the history, you will find who has the right to exist in the land and who’s not. Go to the source of the problem.