rentar42

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨No excuse for shoplifting because UK's benefits system is very generous, policing minister says⁩ ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  if you see anyone stealing food for themselves, then no, you didn't.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  I admit that this is a much higher number than I expected.

  But there's nuance there. First, look at the date. This is about a poll in July 2014, this is very explicitly NOT about the latest, massive push by Israel.

  Second, there's fluctuation in the support based on what exactly is going on (and of course based on what Hamas has done recently).

  Third, the poll is only among Jewish Isrealis (which are the majority, but you're still missing about a quarter of all Isrealis in this).

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  What is right is to keep in mind that "those people" that keep the war running are not all the people that live in that area. I suspect the majority of the population don't actively wish for a full-out war (even though there might be some or even many that support the underlying goal).

  Wars are often (always? maybe, I'm not a historian to be able to judge that) started and perpetuated by small powerful (and/or ruthless) groups within the areas/nations.

  Yes, this particular conflict is very old and very, very messy and I can't even imagine an answer to what the least bad resolution of it would be. But keep in mind that most people that suffer under it probably don't want it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  What it's "really" about is something that future historians can try to figure out, but in situ it's almost impossible to tell.

  We can list all kinds of factors that came together when the conflict started or which factors are around while the conflict keeps going for a long time. What it's "about"? That kind of answer only really exists in games like Civilization where the answer is "because a player wanted X" or "the PC faction AI decided that the value of war exceeded the cost" ... the real world doesn't have as neat an answer.

  Beware those who are sure about the "real reason": they are either ignorant of the complexities of societies and wars or they have an agenda.

  And even those future historians won't be able to pinpoint a single reason for all of this (or most other wars), because it's almost always multiple factors acting together.

  Imagine for a second a war that looks like it's "clearly about the aggressor getting land/resources": that might be the main reason, but maybe historical and religious factors made the war easier to "get going" for those who don't actually care about that (or the other way around: someone powerful want's to wage a religious war, but it's easier to convince the military to fight for the resources ...).