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CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks agoI really don’t think the funny shoe man from the 60’s is to blame for this.
Comment on The White House Rose Garden was replaced by pavement
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks agoI really don’t think the funny shoe man from the 60’s is to blame for this.
Dasus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
He didn’t say “I”, he said “we”. And the “we” in that sentence was Soviet Russia. Soviet Union is clearly no more, but modern day Russia has inherited a lot of policies and values from them.
At which point do you think they just gave up on thinking the US as their enemy?
Because there was a small conflict that went on for literally decades after Khrushchev’s death.
So idk why you’re trying to pretend like “funny shoe man” was waging a personal war against the US when he was the leader of a world power?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Because you posted him with no context. It wasn’t clear you meant Russia.
I’d disagree with that. They inherited autocracy, but it’s not even a vaguely similar model of it. In a lot of ways current Russia is a backlash to the USSR, although they shoehorn communist stuff together with Tsarist stuff and everything else from even earlier to pretend they have some kind of ideology.
They still see the West as enemies or at least competition, though, that’s true.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah modern Russia scrapped everything of value from the Soviets.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Well, they kept a few of the design bureaus, I guess.
When their whole economic model was obviously failing, I think the West thought they’d given up on Marx, when in reality they just decided to become the bad guys from Marx.
Dasus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Uh, it’s literally the First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from the time that he was in power.
“No context”
Fkin lol. You can’t be serious?
You’ll probably disagree with Putler being wanted by the ICC for warcrimes as well? Or at least make some excuse for how he’s not responsible or how the ICC or the UN are somehow the bad guys or smth?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Yeah, and I was wondering if this was a “commie democrats” thing.
No, Putin is shit and I hope he ends up in the Hague where he belongs.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
You’re being downvoted because I think they think you’re a Tankie - but as a Russian - you’re 100% correct about the ideology bit.
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This image is from 2023. Everyone who has a brain and some grasp on historical truth should immediately find this deeply absurd, so let me explain.
Imperial Russia and RSFSR (Russian Country in USSR) are two opposed entities who would sooner let Germans make gains on their territory than take men away from fighting each other, and if you think about it - it makes perfect sense, and is also quite literally what happened.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_Revolution en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War
So why are the three flags together?
Well, imo - Putler’s Fascist Russia is nationalist first and foremost, which is inherently very right-wing, but of course a lot of their glory days were at least under the pretense of leftism, and plenty of Russian nationalists wish for Soviet revival, when in reality they’d be first in the gulags for being rightoids, or if for nothing else - optics.
So putler has a choice, just memoryhole Russia at its most successful as RSFSR both in evil (imperialism, authoritarianism) and good ways (science, technology, welfare) and embrace Romanov lineage Revanchism, or attempt to work in the optics of the soviet union into the national imperial image.
Unfortunately for everyone, Surkov, Dugin and the lot chose post-truth. The Russian “Federation” has no ideology, other than power and maintaining the economic and political capital of its oligarchs and their ability to steal from the Russian people and anyone else unfortunate enough to get in the way.