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• Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I have some information that’s gonna blow your mind: people lived in rural areas for many thousands of years and cars were only invented a hundred years ago.

  They lived self sufficient lives and walked to town once a month for essentials. If they were lucky, they had a mule and a wagon.

  I’m guessing you live in a rural area and you think you need your car, because you’ve gotten used to driving into town every few days for fresh groceries and haircuts? Yeah, so that’s arrogant decadence. You live a cosmopolitan lifestyle with inner city conveniences, despite being out in a rural area with plenty of space and low land values, and this is made possible by your poison death machine.

  The poison death machines are not sustainable. Go back to living how your ancestors did. Take the mule into town once a month for soap and molasses, or move to the city. You don’t get to have it both ways

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t want to live like people lived two thousands years ago, thanks.

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    • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Tough shit. Your poison death machine is killing people on the other side of the world, and the only way to have a clean conscience is to get rid of it

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      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You lack imagination. Plenty of ways to not kill people without having to recede to Palaeolithic levels of life quality.

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• squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah, there’s a bit of a conflict here: People want to live in rural areas with large plots of land and nature everywhere but want to have the comforts and amenities of living in a city center.

  Before the car this was a choice that people had to make: move to the city where everything is available or to the countryside where countryside is available and hardly anything else.

  The car allowed to bridge this gap to the detriment of the climate and the sustainability of life on this planet.

  And now we have another conflict: luxurity for people in rural areas vs survival of the human race.

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Surely there’s a way of having people living rural, a totally valid life choice and also must needed for agriculture, having a good life, and not having a planet wide global extinction.

    I get that in the US and some other countries one of the biggest divisions in voting is rural/urban, thus some people really feel vindicated on hating people that live rural and wanting to impose some penalties on them.

    But if we cannot find an economic system that would lead to every person having a good life, regardless on where they live… Do we really want to have a future as a species?

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    • astutemural@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Whether ‘a good life’ is possible in rural areas depends on your definition.

      Is it living like the Amish? In that case, yes.

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      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No. I think humanity should aim for absolutely every single human in every country in every single region, urban or rural could have a level of life quality comparable to what’s consider middle-high income level in USA/Europe.

        If we cannot achieve that we’d better give up as an intelligent species and leave room for que squids to try.

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