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Newsteinleo@midwest.social 2 days ago
I got bad news for this guy, his employer is only going to pay for excel and his coworker only knows how to use excel so he better learn to use excel. Also people do a lot of things in excel that have no business being done in excel.
My high school IT teacher said this outright. He was a FOSS guy, but he said employers will expect MS Office, so we’re going to be learning that.
Funnily enough proprietary software is frowned upon in my professional domain. Im not mad though, the excel commands and whatnot still work in libre office spreadsheets.
Unrelatedly, doing statistics in a spreadsheet program sounds like absolute hell.
That is interesting: In Geography we could choose a seminar using R or SPSS. There were more R than SPSS seminars available. I did choose R, of course.
The fun part: now it is beneficial to be able to do the same in Python. (:
The point is that learning institutions should not prefer one commercial companies solutions vs another.
In fact, they should not use or be dependent on commercial companies at all.
Learning stuff and implementing what you learned should be available for all. Not just people with the money.
Companies know this so they give away their stuff for free to these schools knowing they will contain these people for life.
We need to break out of that extreme vendor lock-in.
I have coded VBA-based shadow-IT back in the day, but I seriously think this is something that needs to disappear in most firms that still have it. It is typically unmaintable automation of tasks at the department level that is super dependent on who is around and is still often in use after the programmers are long gone. I have seen a few old VBA tools in use that should be done with standard python/R or god forbid even JS Code in a decent documented repo.
funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I heard its good for databases…
Gustephan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I used to maintain an excel database along with an ecosystem of internal engineering tools in excel/vba. I worked in a vault, and one day I asked my isso if I could get python on some of the machines in my lab. A full 1.5 years later they got back to me that some security office was finally ready to consider my request and sent me a bunch of paperwork to fill out to justify why I needed python. And separate copies for each individual library I wanted to come with it. Needless to say I went on continuing to maintain my excel database and toolkit
mEEGal@lemmy.world 2 days ago
some businesses just deserve to die, and are actively working towards it
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 days ago
A lot of companies are like this.