Comment on How come nobody does anything about North Korea?

• novibe@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why would you believe your media regarding a country they admit is “closed off”?

  Do you seriously believe they execute ppl for having the same haircut as Kim? And then execute ppl for having a different haircut from him?

  They execute generals all the time, then the generals appear alive a few months later. That’s that mystical Juche necromancy for ya.

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  • napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I fully agree that a lot of the shittalk about them is exaggerated and ill-informed. They don’t execute people for having wrong haircut (dyeing can get you into some trouble), no, I do not believe that.

    People live there. It’s certainly not nationwide Auschwitz as you might think.

    But they also execute/punish people(and their family members) for trying to leave the country for good or talk shit about their supreme leader. I don’t know you but if that’s not a red flag I seriously don’t know what is.

    They execute generals all the time, then the generals appear alive a few months later. That’s that mystical Juche necromancy for ya.

    Can’t get all the shit right, yes. Doesn’t make their countless crimes-against-humanity testimonies and proofs any less valid.

    But I’m very sure that you are going to say all the defectors and reporters are liars and parrot all the wild cringe tankie shit that no less than 14 should you have outgrown and that’s fine. You do you. I hope someday you can make a personal visit to North Korea and leave the horrific, capitalistic hellhole of a society the West is.

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    • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you are an American, eat what’s on your plate before you worry about NK.

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      • napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        1. I’m Korean.

        2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

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  • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why do .ml’s get so triggered with this topic? And y’all invariably paint NK as these absolute saints when we know what totalitarian regimes do and have done throughout the ages.

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    • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      When you recognize the amount of bullshit propoganda that is consumed daily and realize how false it all is it’s very easy to switch to “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” mode.

      Additionally it’s harder to break others (and oneself) out of the propoganda soup without an extremely sharp distinction between the lies being spoonfed and the material reality. The material reality often ends up getting distorted as a result and the cycle continues.

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I fully support the idea that we have a problem with bias in the news and people profiting from scandals, and we also don’t need to downplay what the government does. We can push back against misinformation without accidentally bootlicking.

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    • nomotetoads@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why would anybody who get called a tankies triggered about a bunch of libs openly talking about sending litteral tanks to a sovereign country? Jeez I don’t know

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      • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Your reply doesn’t really follow the conversation. This is tangential to the main thread. We’re talking about how we present and defend information as a meta commentary on these threads, and not how the invasion of a totalitarian country upsets some folks.

        Also, did you just make an account to participate in this thread? Your account is brand spankin’.

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    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why do .ml’s get so triggered with this topic?

      Because we’ve seen what the real life effect of this kind of mindless jingoism and chauvinism is; millions killed by American bombs.

      And y’all invariably paint NK as these absolute saints

      No, .worlders just can’t stop themselves from strawmanning.

      we know what totalitarian regimes do and have done throughout the ages.

      That’s an absurdly broad generalization, and one I’m going to present as proof that you see things in a cartoonish “good guys vs bad guys” framing.

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• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Western chauvinism is a faith based belief.

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