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• Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  at your vehicle.

  See that’s making assumptions, my American friend.

  I see deer all the time and I have a bow, although not a hunting bow, and I don’t think it’d take me that much practice to pass the shooting test for a hunting license with a bow.

  But I’d have to field dress it then carry/bike it back to my apartment. And I grow weed, which is illegal, so I don’t know if I want giving cops anymore excuses with my annoying neighbours calling the cops over things they’re not used to, or in the worst case, like a trail of blood going to my door. (Obviously there wouldn’t be trail, you’d have it in packs or bags, but like, metaphorically.)

  Also my freezer is nowhere near big enough for even a small deer.

  That’d save me money though, and it’d be an experience, but honestly, it’s just easier for me to grow weed, sell some, then use that cash to buy game from the butcher’s.

  I could look into joining a hunting group, but I live in the city and most hunting groups are in the towns outside the city, and you can’t join them unless you live in the same municipality.

  A car would be great. If I manage to buy myself a station wagon and a chest freezer, I’ll reconsider the hunting bit.

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  • Machinist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Got me. Totally made that assumption. I now live within an hour of downtown of a large metropolitan area, there’s even bus service here. However, even here, life without a vehicle would be full of hardship.

    I’m used to only the extremely poor not having a vehicle. I don’t know the percentage, but a large chunk of our homeless live in their vehicle and have jobs. Which sounds like pure hell.

    Another assumption I made is game not being available unless you hunt it yourself. I’ve read about butchers in Europe selling game but I have no experience with it. The only wild meat you can purchase in a store is saltwater fish, pretty much everything else must be farmed. I understand, and agree, with the original intent. Market hunting was a terrible thing, effectively wiped out the buffalo for instance. It now needs to be brought back, and closely managed, for whitetail deer.

    American Buffalo: In Search of a Lost Icon by Steven Rinella is a fascinating book. Rinella is one of the few modern hunters that I respect. He also has a show, MeatEater, that’s pretty great. He’s a thinking man’s hunter.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean I think I’d definitely have a car if I had the money, but it’s genuinely not necessary.

      It’s not as car-free of a city as something like London, (like most Londoners prolly don’t own cars, but an Oyster card?), but it’d make my life easier for sure.

      I’m used to only the extremely poor not having a vehicle.

      There you go assuming again.

      …

      Just joshing you. I’m like only half extremely poor and the other half has some cash to burn. Insofar that I don’t have official income really and cay pay bills or deposit the cash into my account. If you follow my meaning.

      It’s not that bad honestly, if you’re single at least. I can’t easily fit all my shopping for several days in my backpack. If I had a family, no way, but single, easy.

      Also it’s often quicker getting around with a bike. Definitely to my closest store.

      Sometimes I’ll cycle faster than a bus.

      A car would be faster if there was no need to park, but there is.

      Yeah hunter’s here often sell a lot of the game. It’s culled not for eating but to maintain population numbers, and it’d be stupid to waste it. Although fresh game is only available like half the year at most. But usually you can find frozen. Prices just get higher.

      America is so big and the standard practiced is to free every fish, which seems kinda odd to me personally. I know it isn’t but I live within visual distance of the Baltic Sea and we Nordics are kinda known for fishing, so imagining non-fresh fish is kinda hard.

      Now that I think of it, prolly why there’s a successful chain of sushi places along the coast, but none really inland, not more than 200km anyway.

      Whitetail deer is much more closely managed here as well. Roe deer is sort of like, half vermim. Good eating though, but like so populous they don’t even count the felling permits for them, unlike most other species. You can just go and shoot them half a year given you’re not shooting a nursing mom or a calf (is that the right word for bambi? I know it in Finnish but)

      American Buffalo: In Search of a Lost Icon by Steven Rinella is a fascinating book. Rinella is one of the few modern hunters that I respect. He also has a show, MeatEater, that’s pretty great. He’s a thinking man’s hunter.

      I’ll check that out but somehow hunting buffalo on open plains with ranged weapons from horseback seems a tad unsportsmanlike.

      Or do they like use the forests or am I confusing buffalo and bison again?

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      • Machinist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        By extremely poor, I’m talking physically disabled/mentally unwell/severely addicted. My viewpoint is from a rural southern us perspective. You see someone walking or biking, the assumption is that there is something very wrong with them and that they are probably homeless or nearly so. The only time you don’t assume that with bicyclists, is if they’re wearing spandex on a touring bike or are a kid.

        I’m a total redneck so I’ve had plenty of friends and acquaintances that dealt. One former friend, only man I’ve ever called brother, I rode shotgun for a few times when he was making big moves. (he fell down the rabbithole with conspiracy stuff, we don’t really talk anymore, the brother I loved is gone)

        I’m still adjusting to seeing so many people walking in my new home. Other than gas station/general stores, I’m used to stores being 30mi/48km away.

        Anyhow, anybody moving product had to have a vehicle as a basic part of their trade. Like a shitbox civic and a Hipoint 9mm were a part of the starter kit or something.

        You can get fresh fish, but, you usually pay a premium. Fresh farmed catfish and tilapia are common. Now that I think about it, that’s a type of factory farming I’m actually pretty okay with. As far as I know, their suffering is minimal and the environmental impact can be minimal or even positive when they are used to clean wastewater or fed byproducts. But most freshwater fish simply cannot be purchased, you have to catch them due to the laws. I now live within 300mi/482km of the coast, which is close by my definitions.

        So buffalo vs bison is a funny thing. The american buffalo and bison are the same animal. However, buffalo refers to the wild ones and bison is farmed. Market hunters gunned them all down on the plains and that extirpation largely led to regulated hunting. Rinella drew a tag for one of the last populations of actual wild buffalo up in Alaska. (This stuff is closely regulated and actually backed by population science, one of the areas of law I actially agree with) So, he had to hike up a partially frozen river and stalk a buffalo, process it, and then pack and raft it out. He did this solo. He wrote the book while he was living in Manhattan, IIRC.

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